The Australian all-rounder

[GVGjr]

Most if us are now use to the selectors never ending search for an all-rounder. Now I class an Australian all-rounder as essentially a batsman who can bowl some effective overs. Since the often injured Shane Watson we must tried a handful of all-rounders with little return. Mitch Marsh looks the best option but can't establish himself as a reliable enough batsman and like Watson, he hasn't had a great run with injuries.

So who else is available for the selectors?

Could they return to Glenn Maxwell who promises so much but he hasn't won the selectors overs?
What about the prodigious talent of Jason Sanga?
Marnus Labuschagne's bowling looks like it could be developed into something positive
Marcus Stoinis looks to have one of the best batting techniques and his gentle medium pacers might offer something
Darcy Short is getting better with the bat and his spin bowling might be very handy of the right pitches

Is there an others that have a genuine chance to impress the selectors?

Daniel Sams looks like a decent bowling all-rounder as does Ashton Agar

[KT31]

Re: The Australian all-rounder

Most if us are now use to the selectors never ending search for an all-rounder. Now I class an Australian all-rounder as essentially a batsman who can bowl some effective overs. Since the often injured Shane Watson we must tried a handful of all-rounders with little return. Mitch Marsh looks the best option but can't establish himself as a reliable enough batsman and like Watson, he hasn't had a great run with injuries.

So who else is available for the selectors?

Could they return to Glenn Maxwell who promises so much but he hasn't won the selectors overs?
What about the prodigious talent of Jason Sanga?
Marnus Labuschagne's bowling looks like it could be developed into something positive
Marcus Stoinis looks to have one of the best batting techniques and his gentle medium pacers might offer something
Darcy Short is getting better with the bat and his spin bowling might be very handy of the right pitches

Is there an others that have a genuine chance to impress the selectors?

Daniel Sams looks like a decent bowling all-rounder as does Ashton Agar

Bar the stupid shot he went out on, Sams was hitting the ball magnificent and bowled quite alright in his fist spell tonight.

[lemmon]

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It's the Andrew Symonds type - a very good number 6 batsman that's capable of giving you 6-10 overs an innings and snuffing the occasional wicket.

I think you've got all the names there, the issue is that none have been making runs. Stoinis is most likely in my mind and his bowling has come on in leaps and bounds, but he's spent the last 3 seasons averaging 20 with the bat.

Faulkner was one with that kind of potential but too much short form cricket really ruined him.

[GVGjr]

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It's the Andrew Symonds type - a very good number 6 batsman that's capable of giving you 6-10 overs an innings and snuffing the occasional wicket.

I think you've got all the names there, the issue is that none have been making runs. Stoinis is most likely in my mind and his bowling has come on in leaps and bounds, but he's spent the last 3 seasons averaging 20 with the bat.

Faulkner was one with that kind of potential but too much short form cricket really ruined him.

Faulkner is that bowling all-rounder that as yiu say was around the mark 3 years ago but has struggled with injury and form since.

As you Stoinis looks likely and has the batting temperament to do well but like so many others just can't quite hit the scoreboard to be confident of success.

[bulldogtragic]

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Steve Smith. Without the captaincy, maybe he gets called upon to bowl more now. Apparently he's been working on his bowling too.

[lemmon]

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Faulkner is that bowling all-rounder that as yiu say was around the mark 3 years ago but has struggled with injury and form since.

There was a period where Faulkner was coming into his own with the bat. Scored some big short form runs and was making some gritty contributions for Tassie.

Would've really liked him to be given a few seasons of just first class cricket batting at 5 for Tassie to let him develop. It's a shame how he's ended up.

[Bornadog]

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Cummins is becoming a bit of an all rounder. I like the way he bats.

[dog town]

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We barely use the bowling of an all rounder anyway. If there isn’t anyone world class worth using then don’t play one.

[GVGjr]

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We barely use the bowling of an all rounder anyway. If there isn’t anyone world class worth using then don’t play one.

I tend to agree. If Marsh was better with the bat and could easily hold down number 6 then great his bowling would be a real bonus but for us an all rounder either needs to be capable of batting in the top 6 on form and while we have a number of them around the mark none would really be regarded as the top 7 batsman in the country,
Players like Head can roll the arm over for a few overs as needed

[Greystache]

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Is Wade a worse option than Marsh as an all rounder?

They're both a 130kish bowling option, Marsh goes for 42.5 a wicket, and Wade's a much better bat.

[GVGjr]

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Is Wade a worse option than Marsh as an all rounder?

They're both a 130kish bowling option, Marsh goes for 42.5 a wicket, and Wade's a much better bat.

When fit Marsh can bowl at about 140km but he doesn't get a good enough run at it.
Wade might very well be the better selection given he's had a good season so far with the bat. I've never been much of a fan of Wade but I can't deny he is batting well and his bowling looks OK.

[Bornadog]

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When fit Marsh can bowl at about 140km but he doesn't get a good enough run at it.
Wade might very well be the better selection given he's had a good season so far with the bat. I've never been much of a fan of Wade but I can't deny he is batting well and his bowling looks OK.

Bowling today at around 133

[GVGjr]

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Bowling today at around 133

Yeah he's not quite at full pace.

[Sedat]

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Wade fits the 'genuine no 6 who can fill some overs an innings' type that is needed at this critical position in the batting order. Hilton Cartwright looked a future option 12-18 months ago but he needs to find form with both disciplines before being considered again - I also have doubts on his bowling being anything more than the last couple of overs before tea.