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  • Go_Dogs
    Hall of Fame
    • Jan 2007
    • 10135

    #16
    Re: A likely Ashes squad

    Originally posted by GVGjr
    It's been about 3 weeks since the thread was started and I think a few things have changed.

    James Pattinson woukd be regarded as an unlikely selection and would now be behind J. Richardson, Siddle and Tremain.
    Renshaw seems unlikely and there has to be question marks on Burns, Handscomb and maybe Khawaja.
    Wade is in genuine contention as the reserve keeper and as a batsman.
    Stoinis might be the all rounder on the tour

    There is no clear 2nd spin bowling option.

    Have I missed any?
    Aside from now removing the question mark on Burns and moving it across so there's 2 question marks on Khawaja, I think this is spot on.
    Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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    • Bulldog Joe
      Premiership Moderator
      • Jul 2009
      • 5536

      #17
      Re: A likely Ashes squad

      Khawaja has clearly been the most disappointing batsman, in a year of disappointing batting.

      He has been afforded every opportunity to lead the way as the experienced player in the line-up and has just not performed.

      I would be leaving him out of the team.
      Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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      • GVGjr
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 44571

        #18
        Re: A likely Ashes squad

        Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
        Khawaja has clearly been the most disappointing batsman, in a year of disappointing batting.

        He has been afforded every opportunity to lead the way as the experienced player in the line-up and has just not performed.

        I would be leaving him out of the team.
        Previously he was known as a vastly stronger performer on home soil so it's very disappointing set of innings for us this summer
        I agree it's going to be hard to select him for an Ashes tour
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        • lemmon
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Nov 2008
          • 6515

          #19
          Re: A likely Ashes squad

          Originally posted by GVGjr
          Previously he was known as a vastly stronger performer on home soil so it's very disappointing set of innings for us this summer
          I agree it's going to be hard to select him for an Ashes tour
          Avergae of 19 in the UK (albeit from 3 games) doesn't help. He needs a strong finish to the Shield season

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          • FrediKanoute
            Coaching Staff
            • Aug 2007
            • 3832

            #20
            Re: A likely Ashes squad

            Who else is going to bat at 3? Smith could, but I think the preference would be for him to bat at 4. Khawaja's century today, has probably saved him, that and his 141 against Pakistan. I think the selectors will cut him some slack - knee injury, brother getting arrested twice - hasn't been the greatest Summer off the field.

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            • Bulldog Joe
              Premiership Moderator
              • Jul 2009
              • 5536

              #21
              Re: A likely Ashes squad

              Originally posted by FrediKanoute
              Who else is going to bat at 3? Smith could, but I think the preference would be for him to bat at 4. Khawaja's century today, has probably saved him, that and his 141 against Pakistan. I think the selectors will cut him some slack - knee injury, brother getting arrested twice - hasn't been the greatest Summer off the field.
              The century against Sri Lanka will have secured his spot in the squad.
              Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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              • FrediKanoute
                Coaching Staff
                • Aug 2007
                • 3832

                #22
                Re: A likely Ashes squad

                So with the World Cup done and dusted thoughts turn to the Ashes. My early take on the team for the 1st test:

                Warner - the best and most consistent opener Australia has
                Harris - I think deserves to have first crack. Whether he is still there at the end of the Ashes depends on form, lost of competition
                Smith - the 2nd best batsman in the world has to bat at 3
                Lambushagne - could have gone for Wade; Khawaja injured get his a spot; Has scored over 1000 runs for Glamorgan this summer
                Head - cemented his spot in the team last Summer. Needs to take his game to another level again in England
                Patterson - finished the Summer well and scored centuries v Sri Lanka. England is a whole different kettle of fish. Needs runs
                Paine - resist the call to bring in Carey. Paine is Australia's No.1 gloveman. Carey is heir apparent
                Cummins - picks himself
                Starc picks himself
                Pattinson - 7 for 87 v Sussex in the 4 day warm up game. On song he is a very good bowler. Nudges Hazelwood and Siddle
                Lyon - do we have any other spinners?

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                • GVGjr
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 44571

                  #23
                  Re: A likely Ashes squad

                  Good squad Fredi, I'd imagine Hazlewood would be ahead of Pattinson and Labuschagne will be under pressure from the likes of Handscomb, Wade and Burns.
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                  • Bulldog Joe
                    Premiership Moderator
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 5536

                    #24
                    Re: A likely Ashes squad

                    Originally posted by GVGjr
                    Good squad Fredi, I'd imagine Hazlewood would be ahead of Pattinson and Labuschagne will be under pressure from the likes of Handscomb, Wade and Burns.
                    Surely we have seen enough of Handscomb, to never pick him again.

                    Wade has earnt a spot on performance, but Burns must be right in the mix.
                    Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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                    • GVGjr
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 44571

                      #25
                      Re: A likely Ashes squad

                      Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
                      Surely we have seen enough of Handscomb, to never pick him again.

                      Wade has earnt a spot on performance, but Burns must be right in the mix.
                      I agree there are doubts on Handscomb but his recent selection in the World Cup would indicate he's right in the selectors thoughts

                      I find our middle order is a tough one to pick other than Smith and Head

                      Patterson, Labuschagne, Burns, Handscomb, Wade, Bancroft and perhaps even Carey will provide some challenges for the selectors
                      Will we look more favorably towards Wade and Labuschagne because they can bowl some overs or do we lock on Patterson as a more reliable batsman or Bancroft or Burns to bat at 3 allowing Smith to be protected at 4?
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                      • lemmon
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 6515

                        #26
                        Re: A likely Ashes squad

                        Everyone's in form and making runs - tough side to pick.

                        Bancroft has more than 600 runs at a clip over 50 and Labuschagne was the first player to break 1000 runs for the season (plus 13 wickets to go with it) for their counties. Burns and Harris both have started the A tour with 100s, Wade is plundering runs and Patterson hasn't be able to get much time in the middle.

                        If Khawaja isn't fit, my team is:

                        Harris
                        Warner
                        Burns
                        Smith
                        Head
                        Patterson
                        Paine
                        Cummins
                        Starc
                        Hazlewood
                        Lyon

                        Pattinson unlucky to have 3 excellent quicks ahead of him. Tossed up between Burns and Bancroft at 3 - went Burns for his experience.

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                        • Happy Days
                          Hall of Fame
                          • May 2008
                          • 10133

                          #27
                          Re: A likely Ashes squad

                          We must pick Carey ahead of Paine - I see no reason to keep Paine in the side now that the senior players are back.

                          I don't rate Marnus but the bulk of runs in undeniable. Has forced his way in if Ussie can't go.
                          - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                          • Sedat
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 11211

                            #28
                            Re: A likely Ashes squad

                            Isn't Burns out with chronic fatigue?
                            "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                            • Twodogs
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 27654

                              #29
                              Re: A likely Ashes squad

                              Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
                              Surely we have seen enough of Handscomb, to never pick him again.

                              Wade has earnt a spot on performance, but Burns must be right in the mix.
                              Hanscombe can't play in England. That moving ball outside off stump finds him out every time. We may as well bat one short.
                              They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                              • lemmon
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 6515

                                #30
                                Re: A likely Ashes squad

                                Originally posted by Sedat
                                Isn't Burns out with chronic fatigue?
                                Back and playing - seems to have recovered pretty quickly.

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