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  • The Coon Dog
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 7579

    #1

    Pietersen allowed to switch hit

    Pietersen allowed to switch hit

    KEVIN Pietersen has been cleared to carry on playing his extraordinary "reverse slog-sweep" by the Marylebone Cricket Club (MCC), after cricket's rule-makers announced they would not outlaw the "switch-hit".

    Pietersen used the shot twice to strike extraordinary sixes off New Zealand medium-pacer Scott Styris during an innings of 110 not out in England's 114-run first one-day international victory at the Riverside on Sunday.

    The shots led to criticisms that batsmen had an unfair advantage over bowlers, who are obliged to tell the umpire with which hand they are bowling, and from which side of the wicket, or risk being penalised.

    Following a meeting at it's Lord's headquarters in London on Tuesday, the MCC gave Pietersen, and anyone else, the go-ahead to carry on changing from being a right-handed to a left-handed batsman.

    "MCC believes that the 'switch-hit' stroke is exciting for the game of cricket," the body said in a statement.

    "Indeed, the stroke conforms to the Laws of Cricket and will not be legislated against."

    The MCC statement highlighted Law 36.3, which defines the off-side of the striker's wicket as being determined by his stance at the moment the bowler starts his run-up.

    However, the MCC accepted that implications remained for both the interpretation of the leg before and wide rules by a batsman attempting a 'switch-hit'.

    "MCC accepts that the use of a 'switch-hit' may have implications for other Laws of the game, principally Law 25 (Wide ball) and Law 36 (LBW), and will continue to research and discuss these implications."

    The MCC, often portrayed as a conservative and reactionary cricket body, said that otherwise it had no problems with the 'switch-hit'.

    "MCC believes the 'switch-hit' stroke is a difficult shot to execute and that it incurs a great deal of risk for the batsman," the august body said in its statement.

    "It also offers bowlers a good chance of taking a wicket and therefore MCC believes that the shot is fair to both batsman and bowlers.

    "Furthermore, MCC acknowledges that while bowlers must inform umpires and batsmen of their mode of delivery, they do not provide a warning of the type of delivery that they will bowl (for example, an off-cutter or a slower ball).

    "It therefore concludes that the batsman should have the opportunity - should they wish - of executing the 'switch-hit' stroke."
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  • LostDoggy
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8307

    #2
    Re: Pietersen allowed to switch hit

    MCC are wankers, if he wants to do it then let him.
    I have my doubts its effective against quality bowling.

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    • Twodogs
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 27681

      #3
      Re: Pietersen allowed to switch hit

      Originally posted by ErnieSigley
      MCC are wankers, if he wants to do it then let him.
      I have my doubts its effective against quality bowling.

      Mike Gatting pulled it out against Alan Border's bowling in the '87 World Cup. He managed to get out, the match turned and Australia won the cup.


      It's not very effective against crap bowling either.
      They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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      • Twodogs
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 27681

        #4
        Re: Pietersen allowed to switch hit

        The shots led to criticisms that batsmen had an unfair advantage over bowlers, who are obliged to tell the umpire with which hand they are bowling, and from which side of the wicket, or risk being penalised.

        What's the penalty if a bowler bowls with a different arm to the one they tell the umpire.


        TBH I didnt know it was an official rule that you had to bowl in the manner you nominate before your over. I thought it was more a heads up for the umpire to be looking to the right side and so the non striker knew which side wasnt going to involve you running into him during your delivery stride
        They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          #5
          Re: Pietersen allowed to switch hit

          Originally posted by Twodogs
          What's the penalty if a bowler bowls with a different arm to the one they tell the umpire.


          TBH I didnt know it was an official rule that you had to bowl in the manner you nominate before your over. I thought it was more a heads up for the umpire to be looking to the right side and so the non striker knew which side wasnt going to involve you running into him during your delivery stride
          No ball

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          • Twodogs
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 27681

            #6
            Re: Pietersen allowed to switch hit

            Originally posted by EJ Smith
            No ball

            Do you know if there's a precedent?
            They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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            • Topdog
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jan 2007
              • 7483

              #7
              Re: Pietersen allowed to switch hit

              Such a non issue. Let him try it against a decent bowler, esp. now as they won't be shocked by it.

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              • Sockeye Salmon
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2007
                • 6365

                #8
                Re: Pietersen allowed to switch hit

                So, at the start of the bowlers run-up the batsman is right handed and the swaps over. The ball pitches outside leg (now that he's a left hander) and he can be given out LBW?

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                • LostDoggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8307

                  #9
                  Re: Pietersen allowed to switch hit

                  Originally posted by Twodogs
                  Do you know if there's a precedent?
                  No, its what I call a preventative Law in that it is there to ensure it won't happen.

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                  • LostDoggy
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8307

                    #10
                    Re: Pietersen allowed to switch hit

                    Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                    So, at the start of the bowlers run-up the batsman is right handed and the swaps over. The ball pitches outside leg (now that he's a left hander) and he can be given out LBW?
                    That's the grey area as pointed out by the MCC -"MCC accepts that the use of a 'switch-hit' may have implications for other Laws of the game, principally Law 25 (Wide ball) and Law 36 (LBW), and will continue to research and discuss these implications."

                    There are arguments for and against but my view is if he shapes up as a right hander then whatever he does after that is irrelevant. Therefore the batsman can't claim a wide when the ball goes down the leg side now that he has changed to become a left-hander.

                    Hope that makes sense.

                    I think it is important that the batsman can't create a wide in this manner just as he can't create a wide by pulling away to leg from a ball pitched outside off stump.

                    As a bowler I'd be inclined to pitch a bouncer straight at his head. I would reckon it would be difficult to avoid given what else is going through the batsman's mind at the time.

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                    • 1eyedog
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 13387

                      #11
                      Re: Pietersen allowed to switch hit

                      IMO it makes it easier for the bowler to get the batsman out. If he's quality enough to pull it off it must be admired.
                      But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                      • Topdog
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 7483

                        #12
                        Re: Pietersen allowed to switch hit

                        I don't see how it is different to someone doing a reverse sweep or taking a step away from the stumps just before the bowl is delivered.

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                        • LostDoggy
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8307

                          #13
                          Re: Pietersen allowed to switch hit

                          Originally posted by Topdog
                          I don't see how it is different to someone doing a reverse sweep or taking a step away from the stumps just before the bowl is delivered.
                          You raise two issues here.

                          With the reverse sweep. bascially the player just swings the bat in a different direction. With Pietersen, he actually changes his stance from one side of the wicket to another - which is the leg side then?

                          Re stepping away from the wicket, the striker is not changing his stance. If he steps away he cannot create a wide.

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                          • Topdog
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 7483

                            #14
                            Re: Pietersen allowed to switch hit

                            as far as I am concerned once you do that you forfeit you're right to wides.

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                            • westdog54
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 6686

                              #15
                              Re: Pietersen allowed to switch hit

                              As far as I'm concerned a batsman switch hitting is no different to a fast bowler using reverse swing or a spinner bowling a wrong-un.



                              If you watch the video, the footwork and technique required to execute the shot well is astounding. It doesn't clear the boundary by all that much.

                              I'm glad the MCC is allowing an extroadinarily skilled player to continue employing a shot that scores him many runs and has people interested. Denis Compton used to score boundary after boundary with his sweep shot, and no cricketer since has come close to replicating it the way he did.

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