Shane Warne on Wade and Green

[GVGjr]

A good article about Wade and Green by Shane Warne in the HUN today

I’m a big fan of Matthew Wade – but he desperately needs a big score at the Gabba.

Otherwise I think Ben McDermott will come in for Australia’s next Test match batting at No.5.

I know we’ve only got the Big Bash, but after watching McDermott bat over the last couple of seasons I think he is the next cab off the rank.

He has gone ahead of Travis Head and deserves a chance.

McDermott looks organised, is an aggressive player who looks to score, he’s got a good technique and he plays the quicks and the spinners just as well as each other.

He’s matured as a batsman and I think he’s ready to go.

He’s also the perfect player to have on tour as well, as he is a back-up wicketkeeper, like Wade, too.

I think the selectors will try McDermott before they go back to Head.

I feel for Matthew Wade, because he’s been Mr Fix It and is a great team man.

But you’ve got to perform and one feels he needs a good score in Brisbane to survive.

No matter what happens in this Test, the highlight of the summer for me has been Cameron Green.

He’s a real chance to be something special, but I think he’s got a bit to learn about how to bowl in Test cricket.

As the fifth bowler you’re generally going to bowl 8-10 overs a day, because the other four main bowlers will bowl around 20 each.

So he’s generally bowling when two guys are set and with an older ball.

In domestic cricket he probably bowls with a relatively new ball most of the time, so it’s a completely different role in Test cricket.

He just needs to work out that role, and he will over time and with more experience.

His batting has improved through the series, which is a great sign.

[GVGjr]

Re: Shane Warne on Wade and Green

The problem for Wade is that he hasn't put enough value on his wicket and has given it up too often

He is currently batting like a number 7 wicketkeeper and that isn't good enough for someone wanting to bat at 5 or 6.
I agree with Warne's suggestion about McDermott who could be the ideal number 5 for us but he hasn't made enough runs yet.

I'm not as sold on Cameron Green though but it is early days. His bowling is sharp but he isn't threatening although the Gabba surface might change that for him. His batting looks OK but he's not a convincing test cricketer in a small sample size

[Happy Days]

Re: Shane Warne on Wade and Green

What has Wade ever shown at test match level that warrants a spot in the side? He’s got a patchy technique and a poor temperament, and by now surely the book is written on him.

Green, disregarding all the hype, actually earned his spot with consistent Shield runs over two seasons and has actually demonstrated the ability to pass 50 at some stage in the last three years.

[comrade]

Re: Shane Warne on Wade and Green

It's been a pretty lacklustre series if Cameron Green is the highlight. His 80 in the second dig was impressive but all the pressure was off and his bowling is pretty unthreatening. Obviously worth persisting with and should only get better, but I wish we had a good spinning all rounder to compliment our elite quicks.

[Axe Man]

Re: Shane Warne on Wade and Green

I haven't seen McDermott play in anything other than Big Bash but his first class record is horrible. Averaging 34 with 15 half centuries but only 2 100s. That hardly screams test batsman. Tim Paine is derided for a similar record and he's the keeper, not a specialist batsman. Perhaps McDermott has improved significantly over the past couple of seasons and his stats aren't a true reflection, however his complete lack of big scores (highest score 107) is a major concern for me.

I'm not sure Green could have done a lot more so far. He showed he has talent with the bat and his first class record is almost the opposite of McDermott - makes big scores. Most batsmen have struggled in this series so I'm not sure why a debutant is expected to be hitting centuries where barely anybody else can. He has hardly bowled in the last 12 or so months (not exactly sure of the timeframe) but again his first class record suggests he can become a handy fifth bowler at test level once his body matures.

[Bornadog]

Re: Shane Warne on Wade and Green

I haven't seen McDermott play in anything other than Big Bash but his first class record is horrible. Averaging 34 with 15 half centuries but only 2 100s. That hardly screams test batsman. Tim Paine is derided for a similar record and he's the keeper, not a specialist batsman. Perhaps McDermott has improved significantly over the past couple of seasons and his stats aren't a true reflection, however his complete lack of big scores (highest score 107) is a major concern for me.

I'm not sure Green could have done a lot more so far. He showed he has talent with the bat and his first class record is almost the opposite of McDermott - makes big scores. Most batsmen have struggled in this series so I'm not sure why a debutant is expected to be hitting centuries where barely anybody else can. He has hardly bowled in the last 12 or so months (not exactly sure of the timeframe) but again his first class record suggests he can become a handy fifth bowler at test level once his body matures.

Agree with this Axeman.

Warne is so irritating as a commentator and bangs on about McDermott every chance he gets. I think Green has had a good start to his career and will get better as he gains more experience.

[Mofra]

Re: Shane Warne on Wade and Green

Agree with this Axeman.

Warne is so irritating as a commentator and bangs on about McDermott every chance he gets. I think Green has had a good start to his career and will get better as he gains more experience.

Warne is irritating but he does make some good points.

The best bowlers in Australian test history average a wicket every 70-75 deliveries. That's your Lillees, McGraths, Warnes.
Green is our fifth bowler and barely gets that many deliveries in a day, bowling with an old ball against (largely) set batsmen. He just needs to bowl line and length to give our other quicks a chop out, and Wade's brain fade set him up to fail in the first innings at the SCG.
I think Green has been promising, obviously has a lot to learn but he could become a mainstay in the side.

[Topdog]

Re: Shane Warne on Wade and Green

13 innings without a 50 at the moment for Wade, its hard to see him keeping his spot without doing something well.

At 33 it may well be test career over but he can be proud of his career. Never stopped fighting

[Twodogs]

Re: Shane Warne on Wade and Green

I'm a big Cameron Green fan but he has to start taking wickets.

[FrediKanoute]

Re: Shane Warne on Wade and Green

What has Wade ever shown at test match level that warrants a spot in the side? He’s got a patchy technique and a poor temperament, and by now surely the book is written on him.

Green, disregarding all the hype, actually earned his spot with consistent Shield runs over two seasons and has actually demonstrated the ability to pass 50 at some stage in the last three years.

A nice hundred at Edgebaston and the Oval in the 2019 ashes. He was the only other Australian batsman aside from Smith to score a hundred.

Agree though, he has had a fairly average series and has wasted his starts (though to be fair all the Australian batsmen have nc Smith and Labuschagne). He is mid-30's, it may well be time for a change.