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  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 43875

    Marion Jones

    Jones is probably the gifted female athlete I have seen however, for years many of the other athletes she trained with including her husbands and boyfriends were picked off as PE drug takers which always cast huge doubts that she was 'clean'.

    She eventually got caught, purged herself and even went to jail and yet she stated last week on Oprah that she never knowingly took PE drugs although she will concede that she did take PE drugs as part of the supplements her coach was giving her.
    Why can't these athletes just simply fess up that they tried to get an edge but had been caught?

    Surely any articulate person who had seen so many of her training partners caught would be far more diligent and street wise to the potential problems of taking 'vitamins supplements' from her coach?

    Are these athletes so affected by the drugs they have lost the ability to just be honest?
    Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"
  • The Doctor
    Coaching Staff
    • Jan 2007
    • 3701

    #2
    Re: Marion Jones

    Marion Jones is a dirty filthy stinking drug cheat and no matter how many tears or protests of innocence she is nothing more than that.

    The rewards are obviously great for some of these athletes so they run the gauntlet of being caught. These selfish, greed infested people are the ones they may one day ultimately bring down many sports as we know them. Sadly, people are turning off some Olympic sports and Tour de France and many others because they are losing their credibility when time after time their athletes get caught cheating. There can only be so much supporter tolerance before they get sick of it.

    Everytime I hear of a world record or similar my first reaction is scepticism and I hate that.
    Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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    • Twodogs
      Administrator
      • Nov 2006
      • 27645

      #3
      Re: Marion Jones

      Originally posted by GVGjr
      Are these athletes so affected by the drugs they have lost the ability to just be honest?



      I reckon the problem with people like Jones is they recede so far into the fantasy world that gets built up around them that they start to believe basically anything. She probably truly believes that she was snow white and only unknowingly took PE drugs.
      They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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      • GVGjr
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 43875

        #4
        Re: Marion Jones

        Originally posted by Twodogs
        I reckon the problem with people like Jones is they recede so far into the fantasy world that gets built up around them that they start to believe basically anything. She probably truly believes that she was snow white and only unknowingly took PE drugs.
        We just don't hear them come out and say yes I cheated and I did it for this <insert reason> reason.

        Doc's response nailed this issue because I'm also I'm starting to doubt every quality result these athletes perform.

        I think Martin Vinnacombe fessed up that he had taken drugs to get over a knee injury and tried to justify it by saying that he thought all the good cyclists had taken them but we just don't get enough of these athletes coming clean.
        Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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        • Sockeye Salmon
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jan 2007
          • 6365

          #5
          Re: Marion Jones

          One guy who got caught and fessed up was Justin Charles.

          Said his hip injury would have ruined his career and steroids was his only chance of getting over it, so he went for it.

          His career was over otherwise anyway.

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          • westdog54
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jan 2007
            • 6683

            #6
            Re: Marion Jones

            Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
            One guy who got caught and fessed up was Justin Charles.

            Said his hip injury would have ruined his career and steroids was his only chance of getting over it, so he went for it.

            His career was over otherwise anyway.
            From memory he won back a lot of fans by fessing up and putting everything on record as well. It was, more than anything, a refreshing change to see someone who had cheated and been caught, tell the whole story and basically throw themselves at the mercy of public opinion.

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            • Sockeye Salmon
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jan 2007
              • 6365

              #7
              Re: Marion Jones

              I think I remember reading somewhere that the American Olympic team in 2000 won a court order against the Sydney Organising Committee insisting on getting the list of substances that were going to be tested for during the Olympics (apparently it's not practical to test for every banned substance).

              The only possible reason for wanting this list is so you can use the prohibited substances that weren't on it.

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              • westdog54
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2007
                • 6683

                #8
                Re: Marion Jones

                Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                I think I remember reading somewhere that the American Olympic team in 2000 won a court order against the Sydney Organising Committee insisting on getting the list of substances that were going to be tested for during the Olympics (apparently it's not practical to test for every banned substance).The only possible reason for wanting this list is so you can use the prohibited substances that weren't on it.
                I think its more a matter of the IOC and WADA constantly finding new substances to actually test for, rather than not testing for everything. The Yanks might have found something that wasn't yet on the banned list.

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                • Topdog
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 7457

                  #9
                  Re: Marion Jones

                  She is another on a growing list of pathetic human beings who can not own up to their own actions.

                  If she didn't know she was taking them what the heck was she doing in jaili for the past 6 months?!?!?

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                  • All Bark no Bite

                    #10
                    Re: Marion Jones

                    She knew she was taking the PE now just wants some public sympathy. She has been disgraced and should just accept it.

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                    • Roz

                      #11
                      Re: Marion Jones

                      The drug Jones took was previously undetectable, she never tested positive during a race season, henceforth she possibly took the drug for the majority of her career.

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                      • Missing Dog
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8501

                        #12
                        Re: Marion Jones

                        It makes me sick to the stomach you watch this unbelievable athlete Have a wonderfull meet and she is a cheat. Oprah should not be parading this woman around as an African American woman to emulate she is nothing but a dirty rotten low down cheat.

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