Katich - Has he won any of us over?

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  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 43887

    #16
    Re: Katich - Has he won any of us over?

    Originally posted by mighty_west
    You know what, his average could be over 80, yet people won't change their views, it's just the way some people are!
    Agreed. He has been one of the better performers but even as you say if he averaged 80 he would still have more than his share of critics.
    Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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    • mighty_west
      Coaching Staff
      • Feb 2008
      • 3374

      #17
      Re: Katich - Has he won any of us over?

      Originally posted by GVGjr
      Agreed. He has been one of the better performers but even as you say if he averaged 80 he would still have more than his share of critics.

      It's a bit like Michael Bevan, so many times he saved the Aussies off his own bat, yet was always critisized for being selfish and batting down the order, Micky Bevan would NEVER have been given a choice either way, he played that position better than anyone, his average was somewhere around the 55 mark, yet, still copped a battering from many "arm chair" experts!

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      • Twodogs
        Administrator
        • Nov 2006
        • 27645

        #18
        Re: Katich - Has he won any of us over?

        Originally posted by mighty_west
        It's a bit like Michael Bevan, so many times he saved the Aussies off his own bat, yet was always critisized for being selfish and batting down the order, Micky Bevan would NEVER have been given a choice either way, he played that position better than anyone, his average was somewhere around the 55 mark, yet, still copped a battering from many "arm chair" experts!


        Bevan was very suspect against the short, rising ball. It's great getting lot's of red ink and smashing below par attacks all over the place but when the pressures on and the quicks are going for the jugular you've got to be able to put your body and head behind the line of the ball.


        Bevan, for whatever reason, couldnt do that.
        They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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        • mighty_west
          Coaching Staff
          • Feb 2008
          • 3374

          #19
          Re: Katich - Has he won any of us over?

          Originally posted by Twodogs
          Bevan was very suspect against the short, rising ball. It's great getting lot's of red ink and smashing below par attacks all over the place but when the pressures on and the quicks are going for the jugular you've got to be able to put your body and head behind the line of the ball.


          Bevan, for whatever reason, couldnt do that.

          I can assure you Bevan was placed in extremely pressured situations, for mine, i actually found it easier coming in first up and facing that rising new ball, it made you really have to focus, which in effect made the job alot easier than waiting & waiting to go in to a messy situation made from the top order, and having the dig the team out of that......that is pressure.

          Ill take the opening position anyday of the week.

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          • Twodogs
            Administrator
            • Nov 2006
            • 27645

            #20
            Re: Katich - Has he won any of us over?

            Originally posted by mighty_west
            I can assure you Bevan was placed in extremely pressured situations, for mine, i actually found it easier coming in first up and facing that rising new ball, it made you really have to focus, which in effect made the job alot easier than waiting & waiting to go in to a messy situation made from the top order, and having the dig the team out of that......that is pressure.

            Ill take the opening position anyday of the week.


            Greg Chappell once said it was much better coming in at 1/0 than 2/7 and that's why he loved to bat #3.
            They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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            • mighty_west
              Coaching Staff
              • Feb 2008
              • 3374

              #21
              Re: Katich - Has he won any of us over?

              Originally posted by Twodogs
              Greg Chappell once said it was much better coming in at 1/0 than 2/7 and that's why he loved to bat #3.
              I'd much rather come in at 1/0 than 5/30, then again i refer the shiny new nut than some hatched up thing reversing around.

              Needless to say, Bevan never had it easy! he played his role better than most, which is why he stayed in the position for so long.

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              • Twodogs
                Administrator
                • Nov 2006
                • 27645

                #22
                Re: Katich - Has he won any of us over?

                Originally posted by mighty_west
                I'd much rather come in at 1/0 than 5/30, then again i refer the shiny new nut than some hatched up thing reversing around.

                Needless to say, Bevan never had it easy! he played his role better than most, which is why he stayed in the position for so long.


                I dont think I've ever played against a bowler good enough to reverse swing it!



                I have came in at those scores plenty of times though.
                They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                • mighty_west
                  Coaching Staff
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 3374

                  #23
                  Re: Katich - Has he won any of us over?

                  Originally posted by Twodogs
                  I dont think I've ever played against a bowler good enough to reverse swing it!



                  I have came in at those scores plenty of times though.
                  Well i have faced the brand new nut buzzing around the head on MANY occasions, love it!



                  However those dinky roll your arm over medium pacers do your head in!

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                  • Twodogs
                    Administrator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 27645

                    #24
                    Re: Katich - Has he won any of us over?

                    Originally posted by mighty_west
                    Well i have faced the brand new nut buzzing around the head on MANY occasions, love it!



                    However those dinky roll your arm over medium pacers do your head in!


                    Agreed. Nothing better than testing your technique against the new ball.
                    They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                    • GVGjr
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 43887

                      #25
                      Re: Katich - Has he won any of us over?

                      He won me over a bit more today.
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                      • mighty_west
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 3374

                        #26
                        Re: Katich - Has he won any of us over?

                        Originally posted by GVGjr
                        He won me over a bit more today.
                        Good players get an opportunity and grab it both hands, Katich has certaintly done that, he has pretty much held the top order together since getting back into the test side.

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                        • GVGjr
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 43887

                          #27
                          Re: Katich - Has he won any of us over?

                          Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                          He'll win me over when he scores runs on pitches that don't give up 600 an innings.

                          He's always been a brilliant flat track bully, let's see him make a run when we really need him to on a tough wicket.
                          Originally posted by mighty_west
                          Good players get an opportunity and grab it both hands, Katich has certaintly done that, he has pretty much held the top order together since getting back into the test side.

                          SS, has he won you over a bit more yet?

                          MW, he works within his limitations but he hasn't done too much wrong.
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                          • Sockeye Salmon
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 6365

                            #28
                            Re: Katich - Has he won any of us over?

                            Originally posted by GVGjr
                            SS, has he won you over a bit more yet?
                            It's getting to the point where I'm going to have to concede...





                            ...I just can't stand the prick!

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                            • Happy Days
                              Hall of Fame
                              • May 2008
                              • 10009

                              #29
                              Re: Katich - Has he won any of us over?

                              He's alot easier to like now that he doesn't play one-dayers.
                              - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                              • Twodogs
                                Administrator
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 27645

                                #30
                                Re: Katich - Has he won any of us over?

                                Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                                It's getting to the point where I'm going to have to concede...





                                ...I just can't stand the prick!



                                Dont give up that easy Jim! I havent...
                                They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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