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Hasn't this guy's bowling improved since coming back from injury? He just snared 7 wickets against SA and from memory there was a couple of dropped catches yesterday.
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He doesnt have a great deal of variety in terms of movement off the seam or in the air and that always held him back. What he is doing now is bowling with a lot of intensity. I thought he has started really charging in and just letting it rip. I also think he is thinking through his bowling a bit more. He is bowling a lot of bouncers to push batsmen back and then throwing the ball up for the drive, using the crease to change the angles up a bit and those sort of things. He has just started to get a bit more movement in the air as well, he slanted a couple in to the right handers in India and even shaped it away a couple of times as well. -
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He also made an 80 with the bat which is encouraging.Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"Comment
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He should have been playing ahead of Roy!Comment
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Taking wickets amd making runs against SA. Wow.
Sorry but Roy is a much better player at the next level.Comment
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Funnily enough Symonds couldn't make many runs or take many wickets at the Shield level and yet got promoted.
It's interesting that you stick the boot into Cousins but applaud Symonds and yet neither of them did much to hold their highly paid and treasured positions in high profile sports.Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"Comment
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Sorry Gary but the 2 stories aren't related and we are talking on field performances here.
Symonds is a better player than Watson at test level. Apart from Symond having a better record there, Watson gets injured a lot while Symonds also intimidates the opposition.
I have never condoned what Symonds has done off the field, I'm just saying the test side is better with him in it. If they have 1 all-rounder spot then Watson misses out at the moment.Comment
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With your often one line and sharp responses it's hard to get a read on where you stand on things. I know you have had a red hot crack at Cousins and yet are largely supportive of Symonds inclusion to the test side but I'm not sure if there is a lot of difference between the two really but that's a discussion for another time.
I have no problems people saying that Symonds is the better all-rounder although IMO his bowling is just a bit better than handy rather than being really threatening (at any level) but FWIW, Watson grabbing a 7 for is a huge achievement for someone who has largely been seen as a batting all-rounder. I thought given his improvement on the tour of India and the fact that he has also performed well with both bat and ball at the Shield level rated a mention rather than simply dismissing it because of the team he was playing against.Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"Comment
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I'm sorry but its completely different. As far as we are aware Symonds doesn't/didn't have a coke/ice problem and hasn't been cheating the system for years or gotten away with it.
As for having a red hot go at Cousins? I have nothing against him, just don't believe he is 'cured'.
I agree Watson has improved but I still don't think he ahead of Symonds just yet.
Symonds was dropped because of discipline not form issues and served his time. I find it no co-incident that the Australian side in Indian without him lacked some fight and heart.Comment
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Watsons form at International level! Especially with the ball.
I couldn't give a stuff how many tons Roy has made, his form for QLD after coming back from his "Fishing trip" had been dreadful, and hasn't improved a hell of alot since coming back into the Australian line up!
All i was saying was that IN MY OPINION Watson deserves to be in the side RIGHT NOW, not back when Symonds was making tons!!!
We all know that Symonds is a more damaging player when in form, but unfortunatly, that form has been and still is missing!Comment
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Sorry but get picked more for your performs in past tests than you do for your performances at sheild cricket especially if you played a few seasons.
Not sure how Watson's a test bowling avearge of 35 and a batting average of 19 is considered to be in form while Symonds with a batting avearge of 43 and slightly worse bowling average of 37 is considered to be out of form?
Again Shield form is not Test form. If that was the case Warne would have never been picked for Australia.
So in 2 tests back Symonds batting averages hasn't risen higher than 43, therefore he should be dropped for someone with a worse average!Comment
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Watson did a pretty good job in India with the ball, him & Johnson IMO were probably our bext 2 bowling performers over there, i thought he did enough to warrant some more games, especially knowing how hard it is to bowl over in India compared to our bouncey pitches.
Watson & Symonds are pretty much fighting for the one spot, both considered all rounders, even though Ponting says Symonds is in for his batting....if that was the case, there are far better "batsmen" out there than Symonds, there are far better bowlers out there than Watson etc but thats a different issue.
Going on their averages, that spans over their whole career, not the past few months, and thats where you judge their current form, you can't just judge it from the first game they had played.
Don't get me wrong, i'm not actually the biggest of Watson fans, and i like Roy, but i think Watson should be playing right now ahead of Symonds going by his recent form and perhaps rewarding him for how hard he worked over in India, whilst Symonds should have worked his ass off to get back in the side after being given the boot.Comment
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