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  • LostDoggy
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8307

    #46
    Re: 2018 & 2022 World Cups to be decided together

    Its hard not to be upset by the decision.
    Its 10 stadiums within 20km and being a strick Muslim country no alcohol.
    Most $ wins.

    At least the AFL got what they wanted.

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    • chef
      Hall of Fame
      • Nov 2008
      • 14508

      #47
      Re: 2018 & 2022 World Cups to be decided together

      We would have a better chance of getting the cup if we did a joint bid with Indonesia.
      The curse is dead.

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      • GVGjr
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 43994

        #48
        Re: 2018 & 2022 World Cups to be decided together

        Originally posted by Chops
        Its hard not to be upset by the decision.
        Its 10 stadiums within 20km and being a strick Muslim country no alcohol.
        Most $ wins.
        And the vast majority of the new stadiums will never be used whereas here and in other countries they would have been welcome additions.

        FIFA obviously placed a premium on the economic returns which was our weakness.
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        • The Coon Dog
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jan 2007
          • 7575

          #49
          Re: 2018 & 2022 World Cups to be decided together

          Reports out of London saying the English bid was a first round casualty, obtaining just two votes. Wonder how much of that was due to the Panorama expose' highlighting corruption amongst the IOC whoops FIFA delegates?

          Australia received a single solitary vote and was the first nation eliminated in the fight for the right to host the 2022 World Cup. It ended up being a fourth-round battle between Qatar and the United States with the Middle Eastern nation winning 14-8.

          A major problem when deciding 2 World Cups simultaneously is the suspicion of deals being done between colluding nations (ie, we'll vote for you if you agree to vote for us).
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          • LostDoggy
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 8307

            #50
            Re: 2018 & 2022 World Cups to be decided together

            Money is the only reason.
            In terms of Soccer Qatar is a minnow. Many of the players are Brazilian ex pats.

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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              #51
              Re: 2018 & 2022 World Cups to be decided together

              Australians are too nice we should have used the 48 million to bribe the FIFA officials as that is the only way to get the event.

              FIFA has obviously have no intention of growing the game in new markets

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              • LostDoggy
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8307

                #52
                Re: 2018 & 2022 World Cups to be decided together

                I'm not a soccer fan, but am really disappointed Australia didn't get the 2022 World Cup. I think we would've put on a fantastic World Cup, just like we did the 2000 Olympic Games.

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                • LostDoggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8307

                  #53
                  Re: 2018 & 2022 World Cups to be decided together

                  Originally posted by way out west
                  Australians are too nice we should have used the 48 million to bribe the FIFA officials as that is the only way to get the event.

                  FIFA has obviously have no intention of growing the game in new markets
                  49 Million would have beaten them. Highest bidder gets it.

                  One thing for sure is, there was no point waste our time and money bidding if we are in the Asian federation going up against 3 other Asian bids.

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                  • Topdog
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 7471

                    #54
                    Re: 2018 & 2022 World Cups to be decided together

                    Originally posted by Chops

                    One thing for sure is, there was no point waste our time and money bidding if we are in the Asian federation going up against 3 other Asian bids.
                    Yep thats a very important point. Asia still hates Australia in football so this isn't too surprising.

                    FIFA accepting the money on offer from Russia and Qatar also isn't surprising. Very disappointing though.

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                    • Mantis
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 15240

                      #55
                      Re: 2018 & 2022 World Cups to be decided together

                      Once again the FIFA has sold out to the highest bidder... For the neutrals it really makes you think why even bother.

                      A mate of mine works in Qatar... Was in Melb recently and said for 4 months (when they will play the WC) they didn't have a day under 40 deg and it doesn't cool down much in the evening.

                      The country also has a population of just 1.6mil and they will be building the 10 stadiums within a 20km radius... Good luck moving people around and accommodating them.

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                      • jazzadogs
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 5510

                        #56
                        Re: 2018 & 2022 World Cups to be decided together

                        Originally posted by Mantis
                        Once again the FIFA has sold out to the highest bidder... For the neutrals it really makes you think why even bother.

                        A mate of mine works in Qatar... Was in Melb recently and said for 4 months (when they will play the WC) they didn't have a day under 40 deg and it doesn't cool down much in the evening.

                        The country also has a population of just 1.6mil and they will be building the 10 stadiums within a 20km radius... Good luck moving people around and accommodating them.
                        They won't have any problem with that, because they have the money to build more hotels, and transport.

                        And I suppose the rationale behind having the stadiums so close is that people won't have to travel in the heat for too long in between stadiums. Still think it's a crappy idea.

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                        • Scraggers
                          Premiership Moderator
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 3541

                          #57
                          Re: 2018 & 2022 World Cups to be decided together

                          I think the fact that Qatar are going to ship the stadiums off to under privileged nations (brick for brick) and rebuild them after the World Cup was a big draw ... That and the bribe

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                          • chef
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 14508

                            #58
                            Re: 2018 & 2022 World Cups to be decided together

                            Originally posted by jazzadogs
                            They won't have any problem with that, because they have the money to build more hotels, and transport.

                            And I suppose the rationale behind having the stadiums so close is that people won't have to travel in the heat for too long in between stadiums. Still think it's a crappy idea.
                            The heat shouldn't be to bad at the stadiums either with them being air conditioned.

                            Being a soccer minnow and having the worst possible time-zone for showing games into Europe and the America's we have close to a zero chance of every having the World Cup played here.
                            The curse is dead.

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                            • The Coon Dog
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 7575

                              #59
                              Re: 2018 & 2022 World Cups to be decided together



                              Odd voting patters.

                              In the first round 3 delegates voted for Japan, but in the 2nd round they had one of their voters change allegiance only securing 2 votes. Likewise Qatar were reduced from 11 to 10 votes. Sounds strange that delegates vote for a certain country in one round, but change their minds in the next.
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                              • divvydan
                                WOOF Member
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 1502

                                #60
                                Re: 2018 & 2022 World Cups to be decided together

                                That's normally done to eliminate a potential threat in the first round. Same thing happened with two people voting for Holland/Belgium in the first round and then changing to Russia for the second.

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