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  • azabob
    Hall of Fame
    • Sep 2008
    • 15335

    #31
    Re: The Sydney test

    Surely if you were a beting man, you'd bet that both Symonds and Hayden will play. They selectors have not dropped them yet, i dont think they will start now.
    More of an In Bruges guy?

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    • Missing Dog
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 8501

      #32
      Re: The Sydney test

      Does anyone rate Siddle? I thought he bowled a good spell in which the crowd helped him out and thats it. He won't get dropped for this test, but i just think hopless

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      • Missing Dog
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8501

        #33
        Re: The Sydney test

        Originally posted by bobmurphy
        Surely if you were a beting man, you'd bet that both Symonds and Hayden will play. They selectors have not dropped them yet, i dont think they will start now.
        Symonds is out mate probably replaced with Mcdonald

        Bollinger is also in the squad replacing Lee

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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 44711

          #34
          Re: The Sydney test

          Originally posted by bulldogsman
          Does anyone rate Siddle? I thought he bowled a good spell in which the crowd helped him out and thats it. He won't get dropped for this test, but i just think hopless
          I think he has plenty of improvement to do but hopeless is a touch strong of a term
          Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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          • Bulldog Revolution
            Coaching Staff
            • Dec 2006
            • 3928

            #35
            Re: The Sydney test

            Originally posted by Mantis

            I think we need to stick with Hauritz, encourage him to bowl with loop and set fields that are appropriate to each batsman.
            I agree with pretty much everything you are saying Mantis

            I think the leadership of the team - coach/captain/senior players need to draw him out of his shell and encourage him to do exactly what you say: more flight and more attack whilst keeping the control

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            • lemmon
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Nov 2008
              • 6528

              #36
              Re: The Sydney test

              Originally posted by GVGjr
              Personally I wouldn't play Hilfey. His form is nothing like it was two years ago.

              Regarding Krejza over Haurit,z unfortunately Krejza tries to by his wickets at a price we cannot afford. 5 plus runs per over isn't really acceptable if you aren't taking a bag of wickets but if the selectors are confident he can counter that then he could play as the 2nd spinner. Two right arm offies wouldn't have been used much by us over the years
              I dont think form will be an issue with either Hilfy or Bollinger
              Hilfenhaus: 6 games 24 wickets at 18.66
              Bollinger: 3 games 14 wickets at 22.14

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              • Happy Days
                Hall of Fame
                • May 2008
                • 10155

                #37
                Re: The Sydney test

                Originally posted by GVGjr
                I think he has plenty of improvement to do but hopeless is a touch strong of a term
                Agreed.

                He bowled a phenominal spell before stumps on day 2 to show that he can get it done at international level, and he has the weapon of legitimate pace at his disposal. Also, he's a Victorian .

                Very far from hopeless I would have thought.
                - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                • Bulldog Revolution
                  Coaching Staff
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 3928

                  #38
                  Re: The Sydney test

                  Originally posted by Happy Days
                  Agreed.

                  He bowled a phenominal spell before stumps on day 2 to show that he can get it done at international level, and he has the weapon of legitimate pace at his disposal. Also, he's a Victorian .

                  Very far from hopeless I would have thought.


                  I thought he showed a bit. He was able to do more with the ball in the air then many who have played recently for australia.

                  We've had so few really able to swing the ball recently, and so once their pace dips a bit then they lack wicket taking ability.

                  Siddle looked to me to have genuine upside plus he doesn't look extremely fit compared to the rest of the squad. He's a bit like a raw key position player who needs to get stronger and fitter but shows flashes of ability.

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                  • ledge
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 14342

                    #39
                    Re: The Sydney test

                    McDonald should get a game because we need an allrounder and Hilfenhaus should be in the side because we need a swing bowler for the Ashes.
                    Bring back the biff

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                    • GVGjr
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 44711

                      #40
                      Re: The Sydney test

                      I like the extra value that McDonalds bowling will give the attack and certainly he will assist freshen up the quicks before the 2nd new ball.
                      If his batting can hold up then he could cement a spot especially for the tour to SA.
                      Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                      • Missing Dog
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8501

                        #41
                        Re: The Sydney test

                        Originally posted by Happy Days
                        Agreed.

                        He bowled a phenominal spell before stumps on day 2 to show that he can get it done at international level, and he has the weapon of legitimate pace at his disposal. Also, he's a Victorian .

                        Very far from hopeless I would have thought.
                        Yes but was it the crowd that took those wickets? Siddle said it himself that the crowd played a big part in getting those wickets. He was bowling a lot faster once the crowd was urging him on.

                        Yes agreed though he's not hopeless, if he improves his pace to the level it was in that spell well he will be a lot better bowler. I still don't think he will be that good though.

                        On the selection table table i would bring in Hilfenhaus for Lee. Hilfenhaus at the very least brings more variety to the attack. Surely they can't go for 3 fast bowlers again, although i'm not sure how fast Bollinger is. Siddle, Johnson and Lee were pretty much the same pace and you would think that would advantage the batsmen.

                        As for Symonds, I haven't seen Mcdonald play for about 5 years and he was crap so i have no idea about him. So i would put in Hughes and put Katich to the middle order. I can't see it happening though

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                        • Missing Dog
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8501

                          #42
                          Re: The Sydney test

                          Originally posted by GVGjr
                          I like the extra value that McDonalds bowling will give the attack and certainly he will assist freshen up the quicks before the 2nd new ball.
                          If his batting can hold up then he could cement a spot especially for the tour to SA.
                          I wish he was in last test instead of Symonds

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                          • GVGjr
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 44711

                            #43
                            Re: The Sydney test

                            Originally posted by bulldogsman
                            I wish he was in last test instead of Symonds
                            Especially given that Watson was injured and that Symonds couldn't really bowl.
                            Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                            • Happy Days
                              Hall of Fame
                              • May 2008
                              • 10155

                              #44
                              Re: The Sydney test

                              Originally posted by bulldogsman
                              Yes but was it the crowd that took those wickets?
                              No, it wasn't.

                              Sure they might have helped motivate him, but it doesn't mean that he should be dissarmed any of the credit.
                              - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                              • lemmon
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 6528

                                #45
                                Re: The Sydney test

                                If Hayden came out and scored a big ton would this secure his place? If I was a selector a ton in a dead rubber with little pressure wouldn't mean much and surely wouldn't be enough to sweep the rest of his summer under the carpet.

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