Dave Warner should get a few one dayers.

[GVGjr]

Re: Dave Warner should get a few one dayers.

I would prefer having the option of a front line spinner in the team. Doherty is a rather good one-day specialist spinner, akin to Brad Hogg in a way, and I think he deserves a crack.

Hogg could back it up in the field and with his batting though. How is XD's batting and fielding?

[Happy Days]

Re: Dave Warner should get a few one dayers.

Hogg could back it up in the field and with his batting though. How is XD's batting and fielding?

His batting is not too flash, serviceable at best.

His fielding is solid, if unspectacular.

[GVGjr]

Re: Dave Warner should get a few one dayers.

His batting is not too flash, serviceable at best.

His fielding is solid, if unspectacular.

I have seen him play a few times and his bowling looked awkward but effective but I just couldn't recall him being sharp in the field.

Just throwing some other names up but would Simpson, Smith or North be better all-round batting/spinning options?
Why not stick with Hauritz?

[Happy Days]

Re: Dave Warner should get a few one dayers.

Why not stick with Hauritz?

Hauritz's bowling style, whch relies on changes of pace, is more suited to tests, where the batsmen are more defensive-minded, and thus less likely to go at him for fear of holing out. If he were to play in a one-dayer, he would get slapped more often than not, as the batsmen wouldn't fear these limitations. Essentially, its similar to why Macgill didnt play more ODIs.

As per the all-rounders you suggested, North is good enough to play as a batsmen, but not as our number one spinning option, Smith (I'm assuming Steven) is not ready yet, and Simpson simply isn't international standard. I also would've thought Cam White was ahead of all of these guys.

[lemmon]

Re: Dave Warner should get a few one dayers.

Hauritz's bowling style, whch relies on changes of pace, is more suited to tests, where the batsmen are more defensive-minded, and thus less likely to go at him for fear of holing out. If he were to play in a one-dayer, he would get slapped more often than not, as the batsmen wouldn't fear these limitations. Essentially, its similar to why Macgill didnt play more ODIs.

As per the all-rounders you suggested, North is good enough to play as a batsmen, but not as our number one spinning option, Smith (I'm assuming Steven) is not ready yet, and Simpson simply isn't international standard. I also would've thought Cam White was ahead of all of these guys.

Im not sure North is that far behind White who's bowling is over rated IMO. They both dont turn it but at least North will hit the right areas.

[Mantis]

Re: Dave Warner should get a few one dayers.

Im not sure North is that far behind White who's bowling is over rated IMO. They both dont turn it but at least North will hit the right areas.

I saw White bowl in the 20/20 game at the 'G last Friday and he was embarrassing. He was lucky to land the ball on the pitch and he seemed to have no confidence in his ability to land the ball on the 'spot'. I think his over cost 17.

He did rectify the situation by making a quickfire 50, which included 3 sixes in one over. He can seriously smash the ball.

[lemmon]

Re: Dave Warner should get a few one dayers.

I saw White bowl in the 20/20 game at the 'G last Friday and he was embarrassing. He was lucky to land the ball on the pitch and he seemed to have no confidence in his ability to land the ball on the 'spot'. I think his over cost 17.

He did rectify the situation by making a quickfire 50, which included 3 sixes in one over. He can seriously smash the ball.

He is a class batsmen and I think he should discontinue with his bowling and work on getting into the aussie top 6 on batting alone. IMO the captaincy has worsened his bowling as he is to unselfish or unconfident to bowl himself in a long spell.

[Mantis]

Re: Dave Warner should get a few one dayers.

He is a class batsmen and I think he should discontinue with his bowling and work on getting into the aussie top 6 on batting alone. IMO the captaincy has worsened his bowling as he is to unselfish or unconfident to bowl himself in a long spell.

And as we say this White has taken 4/10 off a couple of overs in tonight's T20 game.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Dave Warner should get a few one dayers.

And as we say this White has taken 4/10 off a couple of overs in tonight's T20 game.

Sounds funny to say, but that was the worst 4/10 i have ever seen. I was almost tmpted to start a thread on it.

3 crappy long hops which were very, very badly executed and a bad LBW decision which was clearly hit.

Funny thing is those not watching will look at the stats and say he deserved his spot as a spinner. I think it was pure luck, and no skill at all, and a bad decision that gave him the figures. If he plays it should be as a batsman and then he competes with DHuss for #6. I'd much rather have DHuss. But as an alternate or rotation I have no issue with White playing. But he is not a bowler and in the Simon Katich level of all-rounder.

[Mantis]

Re: Dave Warner should get a few one dayers.

Sounds funny to say, but that was the worst 4/10 i have ever seen. I was almost tmpted to start a thread on it.

3 crappy long hops which were very, very badly executed and a bad LBW decision which was clearly hit.

Funny thing is those not watching will look at the stats and say he deserved his spot as a spinner. I think it was pure luck, and no skill at all, and a bad decision that gave him the figures. If he plays it should be as a batsman and then he competes with DHuss for #6. I'd much rather have DHuss. But as an alternate or rotation I have no issue with White playing. But he is not a bowler and in the Simon Katich level of all-rounder.

That's what I did.

[GVGjr]

Re: Dave Warner should get a few one dayers.

Sounds funny to say, but that was the worst 4/10 i have ever seen. I was almost tmpted to start a thread on it.

3 crappy long hops which were very, very badly executed and a bad LBW decision which was clearly hit.

Funny thing is those not watching will look at the stats and say he deserved his spot as a spinner. I think it was pure luck, and no skill at all, and a bad decision that gave him the figures. If he plays it should be as a batsman and then he competes with DHuss for #6. I'd much rather have DHuss. But as an alternate or rotation I have no issue with White playing. But he is not a bowler and in the Simon Katich level of all-rounder.

He bowled very poorly didn't he? Despite playing some test matches in 08 I'm not sure where his cricket is heading.

[lemmon]

Re: Dave Warner should get a few one dayers.

He bowled very poorly didn't he? Despite playing some test matches in 08 I'm not sure where his cricket is heading.

I think he either has to much pride to shelve the bowling or not enough confidence that he can make it in international cricket with batting alone.

[Topdog]

Re: Dave Warner should get a few one dayers.

Sounds funny to say, but that was the worst 4/10 i have ever seen. I was almost tmpted to start a thread on it.

3 crappy long hops which were very, very badly executed and a bad LBW decision which was clearly hit.

Funny thing is those not watching will look at the stats and say he deserved his spot as a spinner. I think it was pure luck, and no skill at all, and a bad decision that gave him the figures. If he plays it should be as a batsman and then he competes with DHuss for #6. I'd much rather have DHuss. But as an alternate or rotation I have no issue with White playing. But he is not a bowler and in the Simon Katich level of all-rounder.

Haha so was I. It was possibly the worst spell I've seen him bowl and he picked up 4/10.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Dave Warner should get a few one dayers.

Better to be lucky than good?

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Dave Warner should get a few one dayers.

Happy to call this one.

89 off 43.

Wonder whether he or Marsh (averaging sweet FA in 2008/09) will open in the one dayers.