Adam Voges catch!

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  • LostDoggy
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8307

    #16
    Re: Adam Voges catch!

    Originally posted by mighty_west
    Just on what you said about starting outside the rope and jumping catching the ball and landing inside of the rope, i think you'd have to be Superman to try something like that..LOL, you would be off balance something shocking, would be alot easier just to stand an inch inside the rope, not move and just catch the ball, the reason Voges was off balance and had to do what he did was because he was coming back towards the rope.

    It's actually alot easier going back following the ball taking a catch than coming forward, alot easier to judge as well.
    I disagree a little. Yes its easier to go backward but you are limited by the rope, Touch it and ball and its no longer a catch. More likely to overbalance like Voges did.

    I don't think it takes a superman effort to mark a cricket ball afl style with forward momentum to take you over the rope. It might require a bit of practice and quick thinking ayt the time but its possible.

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    • The Coon Dog
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2007
      • 7575

      #17
      Re: Adam Voges catch!

      Originally posted by ErnieSigley
      I don't think it takes a superman effort to mark a cricket ball afl style with forward momentum to take you over the rope. It might require a bit of practice and quick thinking ayt the time but its possible.
      Possible, but too difficult to attempt. Ideally when you catch a cricket ball on the boundary, you want to be as still as possible while waiting under it.
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      • mighty_west
        Coaching Staff
        • Feb 2008
        • 3377

        #18
        Re: Adam Voges catch!

        Originally posted by ErnieSigley
        I disagree a little. Yes its easier to go backward but you are limited by the rope, Touch it and ball and its no longer a catch. More likely to overbalance like Voges did.

        I don't think it takes a superman effort to mark a cricket ball afl style with forward momentum to take you over the rope. It might require a bit of practice and quick thinking ayt the time but its possible.
        I challenge you to go to a park and try it yourself, you need soft hands when taking a catch with a hard cricket ball, the moment you lunge at it, is the moment it pops out.

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        • mighty_west
          Coaching Staff
          • Feb 2008
          • 3377

          #19
          Re: Adam Voges catch!

          Originally posted by The Coon Dog
          Possible, but too difficult to attempt. Ideally when you catch a cricket ball on the boundary, you want to be as still as possible while waiting under it.
          Or running from side on.

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          • mighty_west
            Coaching Staff
            • Feb 2008
            • 3377

            #20
            Re: Adam Voges catch!

            The other point with the Voges catch, is that had he been just standing an inch inside the rope, it would have just fell in his hands, he wouldnt have had to move, and you are a millions times safer taking a catch that way than some superhuman launch from behind the rope.

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            • Scraggers
              Premiership Moderator
              • Jun 2008
              • 3551

              #21
              Re: Adam Voges catch!

              Originally posted by ErnieSigley
              Is that allowed?
              Do you have to be in field of play while the ball leaves the bowlers hand?


              Law 32 (Caught)

              1. Out Caught
              The striker is out Caught if a ball delivered by the bowler, not being a No ball, touches his bat without having previously been in contact with any member of the fielding side and is subsequently held by a fielder as a fair catch before it touches the ground.

              2. Caught to take precedence
              If the criteria of 1 above are met and the striker is not out Bowled, then he is out Caught, even though a decision against either batsman for another method of dismissal would be justified. Runs completed by the batsmen before the completion of the catch will not be scored. Note also Laws 21.6 (Winning hit or extras) and 42.17(b) (Penalty runs).

              3. A fair catch
              A catch shall be considered to have been fairly made if
              (a) throughout the act of making the catch
              (i) any fielder in contact with the ball is within the field of play. See 4 below.
              (ii) the ball is at no time in contact with any object grounded beyond the boundary.

              The act of making the catch shall start from the time when a fielder first handles the ball and shall end when a fielder obtains complete control both over the ball and over his own movement.

              (b) the ball is hugged to the body of the catcher or accidentally lodges in his clothing or, in the case of the wicket-keeper, in his pads. However, it is not a fair catch if the ball lodges in a protective helmet worn by a fielder. See Law 23 (Dead ball).

              (c) the ball does not touch the ground, even though the hand holding it does so in effecting the catch.

              (d) a fielder catches the ball after it has been lawfully struck more than once by the striker, but only if the ball has not touched the ground since first being struck.

              (e) a fielder catches the ball after it has touched an umpire, another fielder or the other batsman. However, it is not a fair catch if the ball has touched a protective helmet worn by a fielder, although the ball remains in play.

              (f) a fielder catches the ball in the air after it has crossed the boundary provided that
              (i) he has no part of his person touching, or grounded beyond, the boundary at any time when he is in contact with the ball.
              (ii) the ball has not been grounded beyond the boundary.
              See Law 19.3 (Scoring a boundary).

              (g) the ball is caught off an obstruction within the boundary, provided it has not previously been decided to regard the obstruction as a boundary.

              4. Fielder within the field of play
              (a) A fielder is not within the field of play if he touches the boundary or has any part of his person grounded beyond the boundary. See Law 19.3 (Scoring a boundary).

              (b) 6 runs shall be scored if a fielder
              (i) has any part of his person touching, or grounded beyond, the boundary when he catches the ball.
              (ii) catches the ball and subsequently touches the boundary or grounds some part of his person over the boundary while carrying the ball but before completing the catch.

              See Laws 19.3 (Scoring a boundary) and 19.4 (Runs allowed for boundaries).

              5. No runs to be scored
              If the striker is dismissed Caught, runs from that delivery completed by the batsmen before the completion of the catch shall not be scored, but any penalties awarded to either side when the ball is dead, if applicable, will stand. Law 18.12(a) (Batsman returning to wicket he has left) shall apply from the instant of the catch.

              © Marylebone Cricket Club 2003

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              • hujsh
                Hall of Fame
                • Nov 2007
                • 11732

                #22
                Re: Adam Voges catch!

                Originally posted by Scraggers

                The act of making the catch shall start from the time when a fielder first handles the ball and shall end when a fielder obtains complete control both over the ball and over his own movement.
                That one's interesting. Technically Voges crossed over while competing the catch.
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                • westdog54
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 6683

                  #23
                  Re: Adam Voges catch!

                  Originally posted by hujsh
                  That one's interesting. Technically Voges crossed over while competing the catch.
                  But if you read point f he is covered as he did not touch over the boundary whilst touching the ball.

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