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  • hujsh
    Hall of Fame
    • Nov 2007
    • 11960

    #16
    Re: Hashim Amla

    Originally posted by Lantern
    Apparently there's an batsman named Imran Khan (Apart from Prince) in SA knocking on the door as well.
    He'd be the front runner to take Smith's spot if they don't want to shuffle their batting order to make room for Prince
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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    • hujsh
      Hall of Fame
      • Nov 2007
      • 11960

      #17
      Re: Hashim Amla

      The changes are

      OUT: Smith, McKenzie, Morkle
      In: Prince, Kahn, A.Morkle or Parnell

      Prince will captain and also open with Kahn
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      • mighty_west
        Coaching Staff
        • Feb 2008
        • 3503

        #18
        Re: Hashim Amla

        Originally posted by hujsh
        The changes are

        OUT: Smith, McKenzie, Morkle
        In: Prince, Kahn, A.Morkle or Parnell

        Prince will captain and also open with Kahn
        So Prince will captain even though he's probably not considered by the Sth Africans to be in their best 11? That i find amazing, how Boucher isn't given that role [with Smith injured] is beyond me.

        They make some crazy decisions those Sth Africans, playing McKenzie in front of Prince is another mind boggling one.

        Albie Morkle is a good in for them.

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        • hujsh
          Hall of Fame
          • Nov 2007
          • 11960

          #19
          Re: Hashim Amla

          Originally posted by mighty_west
          So Prince will captain even though he's probably not considered by the Sth Africans to be in their best 11? That i find amazing, how Boucher isn't given that role [with Smith injured] is beyond me.

          They make some crazy decisions those Sth Africans, playing McKenzie in front of Prince is another mind boggling one.

          Albie Morkle is a good in for them.
          It'll be interesting to see if he can adapt to the longer version if he's picked
          [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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          • mighty_west
            Coaching Staff
            • Feb 2008
            • 3503

            #20
            Re: Hashim Amla

            Originally posted by hujsh
            It'll be interesting to see if he can adapt to the longer version if he's picked
            The quality players adjust to any format, he is also a genuine all rounder.

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            • hujsh
              Hall of Fame
              • Nov 2007
              • 11960

              #21
              Re: Hashim Amla

              Originally posted by mighty_west
              The quality players adjust to any format, he is also a genuine all rounder.
              Not always straight away though.

              Maybe he's not such a quality player as well. After all there are plenty of one day specialists that are great at what they do but can't hack it at test level.

              Personally i wonder if his bowling is threatening enough at test level and if his batting is solid enough to last a proper innings.
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              • mighty_west
                Coaching Staff
                • Feb 2008
                • 3503

                #22
                Re: Hashim Amla

                Originally posted by hujsh
                Not always straight away though.

                Maybe he's not such a quality player as well. After all there are plenty of one day specialists that are great at what they do but can't hack it at test level.

                Personally i wonder if his bowling is threatening enough at test level and if his batting is solid enough to last a proper innings.
                Well, there is only one way to find out, and with the Sth Africans losing the series, they have nothing to lose by giving him a go, he certaintly couldn't do any worse than his brother.

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                • hujsh
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 11960

                  #23
                  Re: Hashim Amla

                  Originally posted by mighty_west
                  Well, there is only one way to find out, and with the Sth Africans losing the series, they have nothing to lose by giving him a go, he certaintly couldn't do any worse than his brother.
                  I guess that's the upside.
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                  • mighty_west
                    Coaching Staff
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 3503

                    #24
                    Re: Hashim Amla

                    Originally posted by hujsh
                    I guess that's the upside.
                    You lose a series, you just have to try something, at least get something from a dead rubber apart from a meaningless win, and if an Albie Morkal or Kahn or Parnell show something, then that has to be a good thing and a positive to take away to work on for team to go forward.

                    I just think there's something about Albie, he has that x factor thing about him, more so with the bat, but if he does stand up, with his agreesive nature on field, that can also run through the rest of the team, if it doesn't work, it doesn't work.

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                    • lemmon
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 6593

                      #25
                      Re: Hashim Amla

                      SA squad: Ashwell Prince (capt), Imraan Khan, Hashim Amla, Jacques Kallis, AB de Villiers, JP Duminy, Mark Boucher (wk), Paul Harris, Albie Morkel, Dale Steyn, Makhaya Ntini, Wayne Parnell.

                      Some big ommisions Mckenzie was expected but I though they might persist a bit more with Morkel, he bowls some cracking balls but doesn't follow it up and releases the pressure too often. Interesting they went with Parnell over Tsotsobe, if Tsotsobe can get an extended run at international cricket he could be very successful but they obviously liked the extra batting and fielding ability Parnell offers. SA had a very long tail and had obviously lost faith in Morkels batting when Harris came in above him. All three of Steyn, Harris and Ntini wouldnt look out of place at number 11. Cant really see Albie playing, dont think his bowling is good enough to justify batting him at 8.
                      My SA XI would be:
                      AB Devilliers
                      Imran Khan
                      Amla
                      Kallis
                      Prince
                      Duminy
                      Boucher
                      Parnell
                      Harris
                      Steyn
                      Ntini

                      Geez just reading over that XI, their gonna struggle to take 15 wickets. Harris and Kallis are pedestrian. IMO Ntini is past it and Parnell didnt look fantastic in the 20 20 and One dayer he played over here, we also have to remember he only has 26 first class wickets in 10 matches. Tsotsobe should've been picked

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                      • Sockeye Salmon
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 6365

                        #26
                        Re: Hashim Amla

                        Albie Morkel bowls ordinary medium pace that won't ever trouble a test batsman and is just a tonker with the bat. The typical 'can't bat well enough, can't bowl well enough, lets call him an all-rounder'.

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                        • dog town
                          Senior Player
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 1925

                          #27
                          Re: Hashim Amla

                          Originally posted by timbo
                          As close to technically perfect as I've seen- .
                          Your easily pleased then. Dont confuse style and elegance with technique. He looks fantastic when he bats but IMO the only thing holding him back is a couple of flaws in the way he goes about it (technique).

                          He is in the same mould as Martyn, Waugh, Hodge, Laxman, Gibbs and Peterson not in style but in the fact that they are all eye and do not rely heavily on footwork or positioning when they strike a ball. They all stay pretty still and have minimal movement but have a tremendous ability to find the middle of the bat. These guys are always brilliant to watch and can turn a game but you always feel a chance to get them out as well. He looks very stylish but IMO a good technique is something that takes as much risk as possible out of every shot, even scoring shots. Amla does the opposite of this at the moment and thats why he keeps getting out.

                          I think if you are that style batsmen then you need to know your own game very well and hit in areas that are of less danger to you. Amla needs to play straighter for longer. He might feel that he can hit the ball to areas that are less protected but he is better off making 100 off 230 balls than a 60 off 100 balls. He looks pretty comfortable at the crease and has generally got himself out so I dont think he will have trouble occupying the crease for long enough.

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                          • dog town
                            Senior Player
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 1925

                            #28
                            Re: Hashim Amla

                            Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                            Albie Morkel bowls ordinary medium pace that won't ever trouble a test batsman and is just a tonker with the bat. The typical 'can't bat well enough, can't bowl well enough, lets call him an all-rounder'.
                            Agreed. Nuisance value with the bat and thats about it. At least with McDonald you know he is going to be very hard to get away. I feel Albie's bowling might be quite ineffective at test level.

                            McKenzie is actually a much better player than he is showing. He has lost his mind as a bastmen basically. Can be a wonderful attacking player in full flight.

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                            • lemmon
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 6593

                              #29
                              Re: Hashim Amla

                              Originally posted by dog town
                              Agreed. Nuisance value with the bat and thats about it. At least with McDonald you know he is going to be very hard to get away. I feel Albie's bowling might be quite ineffective at test level.

                              McKenzie is actually a much better player than he is showing. He has lost his mind as a bastmen basically. Can be a wonderful attacking player in full flight.
                              Mckenzies problem has always been with his head. Technique is fine, good concentration he just doesnt believe he's up to it.

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                              • LostDoggy
                                WOOF Member
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 8307

                                #30
                                Re: Hashim Amla

                                Imran Khan 'make love to you like a tiger'

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