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  • LostDoggy
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    Clark only fourth-best quick: How stupid is Hilditch?

    Clark waits to speak to Hilditch on where he stands
    Jamie Pandaram, Canterbury
    August 14, 2009

    MARGINALISED fast bowler Stuart Clark confirmed that he has received no feedback from selectors on his performance at Headingley, despite national selection chairman Andrew Hilditch publicly declaring that he remained at best fourth in the pecking order of Australian pacemen.

    Clark, whose place is in doubt for the deciding Ashes Test at the Oval next week, believes Hilditch may have made an error answering a question from media, and hopes to discuss the comments with the selection boss after the tour. ''He probably got asked a question - you blokes [journalists] are pretty cunning, the way you ask your questions - he probably answered it, didn't realise what he'd said,'' Clark said. ''Sometime in the future, when I do see Andrew again, maybe over a quiet drink we'll talk about it, but I'm really not fussed about it either way.

    ''I think you always feel like you've got something to prove. You never feel as though you can just sit there and play.''

    Hilditch told reporters that despite Clark's impressive bowling in Leeds, which sparked an England collapse to all out for 102, he remained behind Mitchell Johnson, Peter Siddle and Ben Hilfenhaus in selectors' minds for the fifth match.

    Clark replaced spinner Nathan Hauritz for the fourth Test but the NSW tweaker will have strong claims on a deck expected to favour slow bowlers on the last two days.

    ''The reality is we've played on very dry wickets and Nathan Hauritz has had a very important role to play. Probably the first opportunity to consider playing four quicks was in Headingley, and Stuart Clark got the nod,'' Hilditch said on Tuesday.

    ''And he did a good job, but the other three bowled exceptionally well as well and took more wickets, so I think we'll go into the fifth Test with those three fast bowlers [being] our leading bowlers at the moment.''

    Clark has a phenomenal average of 18.44 against England, and said the key was simplicity.

    ''I enjoy playing against England. I have had a little bit of success. I probably feel comfortable when I do play against them,'' he said.

    ''I have a pretty simple plan, and I try to keep it simple, and it seems to be working.''

  • LostDoggy
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    Re: Clark only fourth-best quick: How stupid is Hilditch?

    Everyone knows that I don't need an excuse to stick the boots into the selection committee, but come ON!

    I mean, not only is Stuart Clark actually the BEST Australian bowler in English conditions (how much proof do they need? How can he possibly be behind Hilfenhaus or Siddle, or Johnson's crap bowling all tour? I mean, sure, Mitchell won us a Test Series in South Africa.. but so has Clarkie!), but they don't even talk to him after the Test?

    What are these guys doing???

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    • LostDoggy
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      #3
      Re: Clark only fourth-best quick: How stupid is Hilditch?

      Til the last test Clark hadn't played a test for 12? months. On form Hilfy has an arguement to be better in English conditions.

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      • LostDoggy
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        Re: Clark only fourth-best quick: How stupid is Hilditch?

        Originally posted by Lantern
        Everyone knows that I don't need an excuse to stick the boots into the selection committee, but come ON!

        I mean, not only is Stuart Clark actually the BEST Australian bowler in English conditions (how much proof do they need? How can he possibly be behind Hilfenhaus or Siddle, or Johnson's crap bowling all tour? I mean, sure, Mitchell won us a Test Series in South Africa.. but so has Clarkie!), but they don't even talk to him after the Test?

        What are these guys doing???
        Who gets the chop in order for Clark to play?

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        • LostDoggy
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          Re: Clark only fourth-best quick: How stupid is Hilditch?

          Originally posted by The Coon Dog
          They don't need to give anyone the chop, that is, unless they decide to play Hauritz.
          Which they must do on a batsman friendly track like The Oval. Playing four quicks in such conditions would be madness.

          Despite being heralded as cricket's Eagleton, Hauritz's performances on tour have been first class and he must be among the first picked for this Test

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          • Bornadog
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            Re: Clark only fourth-best quick: How stupid is Hilditch?

            Originally posted by EJ Smith
            Which they must do on a batsman friendly track like The Oval. Playing four quicks in such conditions would be madness.

            Despite being heralded as cricket's Eagleton, Hauritz's performances on tour have been first class and he must be among the first picked for this Test
            Can we go in with 4 quicks and use North to part time spin?
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            • LostDoggy
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              Re: Clark only fourth-best quick: How stupid is Hilditch?

              Originally posted by EJ Smith
              Who gets the chop in order for Clark to play?
              Look, he should replace any one of the three quicks. It's irrelevant who he replaces -- you build an attack in England around the likes of McGrath or his clones. Stuart Clark has an incredible record over there and looks bloody dangerous, just as McGrath did -- it's no accident that the tight outside off-stump seam bowling that is their specialty have precipitated large-scale collapses in the English batting line up like the one seen in the last Test.

              Actually, the most logical way to do this is to kick Huss out, push everyone up one spot and let Haddin bat at 6, and go in with four quicks and a spinner. Johnson's average is that of an all-rounder, Siddle, Clark and Hilf can all bat a bit, and Huss hasn't been scoring runs anyway so it's essentially no difference, except you get a more potent bowling line-up with which to knock the Poms over with.

              Not that the selectors will do anything remotely as logically adventurous, mind you.

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              • LostDoggy
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                Re: Clark only fourth-best quick: How stupid is Hilditch?

                I don't favour having a "part-time" spinner in a Test which we must not lose. The surest way of not losing is to bowl them out twice and variation will be important.

                The Oval is apparently a roadway for 3 1/2 days. It will be Cardiff all over again with opening batsmen getting on the back foot early and hoiking them over mid-wicket.

                Four quicks worked at Headingly because the track had plenty of juice in it.

                This one won't

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                • Bornadog
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                  Re: Clark only fourth-best quick: How stupid is Hilditch?

                  Originally posted by EJ Smith
                  I don't favour having a "part-time" spinner in a Test which we must not lose. The surest way of not losing is to bowl them out twice and variation will be important.

                  The Oval is apparently a roadway for 3 1/2 days. It will be Cardiff all over again with opening batsmen getting on the back foot early and hoiking them over mid-wicket.

                  Four quicks worked at Headingly because the track had plenty of juice in it.

                  This one won't
                  If we win the toss, will we bat first?.
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                  • LostDoggy
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                    Re: Clark only fourth-best quick: How stupid is Hilditch?

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    If we win the toss, will we bat first?.
                    In Test cricket 9 times out of 10 you bat first.

                    On the tenth occasion, you think about it and then bat

                    For this match for us to win the toss and bat is a huge advantage.

                    Now this is the good part. England in the knowedge they must bowl us out twice just might sink us in

                    You beauty!!

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                    • hujsh
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                      Re: Clark only fourth-best quick: How stupid is Hilditch?

                      Originally posted by Lantern
                      Look, he should replace any one of the three quicks. It's irrelevant who he replaces -- you build an attack in England around the likes of McGrath or his clones. Stuart Clark has an incredible record over there and looks bloody dangerous, just as McGrath did -- it's no accident that the tight outside off-stump seam bowling that is their specialty have precipitated large-scale collapses in the English batting line up like the one seen in the last Test.
                      He has played one test in English conditions.
                      [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                      • LostDoggy
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                        Re: Clark only fourth-best quick: How stupid is Hilditch?

                        Originally posted by EJ Smith
                        Which they must do on a batsman friendly track like The Oval. Playing four quicks in such conditions would be madness.

                        Despite being heralded as cricket's Eagleton, Hauritz's performances on tour have been first class and he must be among the first picked for this Test
                        If Hauritz was a first class spinner then I would agree with you. He wasn't able to spin out the English on a spinning deck Cardiff, he won't do it at the Oval.

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                        • LostDoggy
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                          Originally posted by ErnieSigley
                          If Hauritz was a first class spinner then I would agree with you. He wasn't able to spin out the English on a spinning deck Cardiff, he won't do it at the Oval.
                          He's no Warne, I grant you but his performances have been good. I'm not blowing his trumpet but in my view he offers much more at The Oval than a fourth quick

                          Cardiff was no dust bowl either

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                          • LostDoggy
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                            #14
                            Re: Clark only fourth-best quick: How stupid is Hilditch?

                            Originally posted by hujsh
                            He has played one test in English conditions.
                            Yes. Incredibly. *grin*

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                            • GVGjr
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                              #15
                              Re: Clark only fourth-best quick: How stupid is Hilditch?

                              Originally posted by EJ Smith
                              Which they must do on a batsman friendly track like The Oval. Playing four quicks in such conditions would be madness.

                              Despite being heralded as cricket's Eagleton, Hauritz's performances on tour have been first class and he must be among the first picked for this Test
                              Given that England need to beat us would there be any merit in playing McDonald as the 4th seamer and adding a bit of depth to the batting?
                              I have no real problem with Hauritz but I don't want the Poms to win the series.
                              McDonald can bowl very tightly for long periods and could tie them down.
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