Tim Paine must stay selected for Tests, ODI's and T20's.

[bulldogtragic]

That is all.

[chef]

Re: Tim Paine must stay selected for Tests, ODI's and T20's.

I agree but can't see it happening.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Tim Paine must stay selected for Tests, ODI's and T20's.

I agree but can't see it happening.

I think CA are taking their view of 'bottoming out' and 'rebuilding' from Sydney Swans FC. Haddin hasn't got anything like his glovework (this guys work behind he stumps is as good as i have seen for decades) and his batting is about the same on the scorsheet. He may make them quicker, but Paine has already a century to his name in international cricket.

Sad thing is, you're proably right. Both he and Hughes can be dumped for ageing mates of Ricky. I just hope they persist with some kids...

[chef]

Re: Tim Paine must stay selected for Tests, ODI's and T20's.

Sad thing is, you're proably right. Both he and Hughes can be dumped for ageing mates of Ricky. I just hope they persist with some kids...

He's only 24(Haddins 32 this month), so he will get a good career if he keeps() up this form.

Could it be a possibility that Haddin just focuses on or is only selected for tests?

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Tim Paine must stay selected for Tests, ODI's and T20's.

He's only 24(Haddins 32 this month), so he will get a good career if he keeps() up this form.

Could it be a possibility that Haddin just focuses on or is only selected for tests?

That might keep the wolves at bay for Haddin, but until the Endland series they were persisting with him opening the innings, i may be a little biased, but I think Haddin is very much overrated, a very poor mans Michael Slater wannabe. And Haddin finds stupid and unforgivable ways to get himself out at crucial stages too often for my liking. No doubt he has talent, but so does Paine, and Paine can actually keep better than anyone since Healy. His display in the last few games for diving catches to the left and right, stretching above the head stumpings was outstanding skill and ability.

Back to the question, i can't see Haddin doing it, although if he did he could extend his career i guess. The reality is that he will probably get his spot back irregardless so i'm not sure a 32yo who hasn't played much cricket would do that.

[GVGjr]

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I think Haddin needs to stay on the job for this summer and then Paine should be ready test duties. Paine has done better than I expected but he still isn't a great keeper and needs a bit more experience. At the moment I like the idea of bringing him into the side for the short versions of the game.

[chef]

Re: Tim Paine must stay selected for Tests, ODI's and T20's.

I think Haddin needs to stay on the job for this summer and then Paine should be ready test duties. Paine has done better than I expected but he still isn't a great keeper and needs a bit more experience. At the moment I like the idea of bringing him into the side for the short versions of the game.

He is a lot better then Haddin behind the stumps.

[GVGjr]

Re: Tim Paine must stay selected for Tests, ODI's and T20's.

He is a lot better then Haddin behind the stumps.

Better yes but still not a great keeper. Did you see that catch he dropped against Pakistan I think? It was a very straight forward chance.
Potentially he will be a far better keeper about another summer mainly at the state level won't hurt him.

[chef]

Re: Tim Paine must stay selected for Tests, ODI's and T20's.

Better yes but still not a great keeper. Did you see that catch he dropped against Pakistan I think? It was a very straight forward chance.
Potentially he will be a far better keeper about another summer mainly at the state level won't hurt him.

Fair enough. I'm not a fan of Haddins keeping.

[GVGjr]

Re: Tim Paine must stay selected for Tests, ODI's and T20's.

Fair enough. I'm not a fan of Haddins keeping.

No one is but currently Paine isn't that much better but in time he will be. Haddin can still do the job for us this summer.

[Happy Days]

Re: Tim Paine must stay selected for Tests, ODI's and T20's.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

Haddin is an okay-ish batsman, but he isn't good enough to be keeping his place on this alone ahead of Paine. And his keeping is downright atrocious at times, so that can't keep Paine out either. Paine is not only a great keeper (his keeping up to the pacemen was amazing), but can seriously bat, at anywhere from 1-8 (has made double tons opening the batting for Tassie). When you consider that Paine has 10+ years of international service ahead of him, it looks a no brainer.

Paine is flat out better than Haddin, by some sort of distance.

[mighty_west]

Re: Tim Paine must stay selected for Tests, ODI's and T20's.

I must admit i have enjoyed watching Tim play, and he really looked quite comfortable with both opening up the batting and behind the stumps with his glovework, in fact, his glovework was really good, he had one poor game, but i put alot of that down to an in different pitch.

I can also see alot of people thinking, let's just give the kid the gig now on a full time basis, but with the load these days with fixturing & touring etc, they play alot of cricket, and you don't want to burn them out too quickly, plus cricket is alot different to say Aussie Rules regarding age, with footy, at 24 you should be playing consistent footy at the top and pretty much set to hit peak form for the next 4 or 5 years, 24 in cricketing terms, you're just a pup.

Plus whilst the shorter form of the game does suit younger players, Tests are a completely different situation, i think [injury free] Haddin should be safe for now, but what Paine has shown, is a confidence that the selectors would be confident in giving his game time if required, has has well & truly passed his first test in the Champions Trophy series.

[GVGjr]

Re: Tim Paine must stay selected for Tests, ODI's and T20's.

I believe that Shaun Marsh has overcome his hamstring injury so I wonder if he will return to the top of the order replacing Paine (in batting sense) or the middle order to replace Ferguson or Hussey for the 7 one dayers against India?

It's going to be a huge battle for Paine if Haddin is fit, a real test of the selectors policy of picking the players in form or reputation.