Tour of NZ.

[Sockeye Salmon]

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Let's not lose sight of the fact that Chris Martin was opening the bowling.

[chef]

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He won some points with me and I'm not his biggest supporter. It shows that he has the ability to dig deep and tough things out.

The hand brake is off.

[GVGjr]

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Let's not lose sight of the fact that Chris Martin was opening the bowling.

It's a shame that Bond isn't playing as they just don't have the depth. From what I have seen NZ bowled well in the first two sessions but fell away later in the day.

[GVGjr]

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Phil Hughes shot shows he hasn't tightened things up enough. Is he worth persevering with?

[mighty_west]

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Phil Hughes shot shows he hasn't tightened things up enough. Is he worth persevering with?

He is for the long term, and it isn't as though the quality of bowling is too good for him, he keeps getting himself out by playing loose shots.

I understand that is the way he does play, however he just needs to tighten things up somewhat and perhaps be a bit more selective with his shots.

He has proven he can cut it at the top level, given his form against the Sth Africans.

I would even look at perhaps batting him down the order, release some pressure, he seems to be the type that could adjust with his batting, he is a playmaker anyway, plus we do have Watson to come back anyway.

That said, looks like North is fighting with everything he has to hold onto that spot, a great partnership with Clarke, hopefully North can also reach triple figures.

[chef]

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He is for the long term, and it isn't as though the quality of bowling is too good for him, he keeps getting himself out by playing loose shots.

I understand that is the way he does play, however he just needs to tighten things up somewhat and perhaps be a bit more selective with his shots.

He has proven he can cut it at the top level, given his form against the Sth Africans.

I would even look at perhaps batting him down the order, release some pressure, he seems to be the type that could adjust with his batting, he is a playmaker anyway, plus we do have Watson to come back anyway.

That said, looks like North is fighting with everything he has to hold onto that spot, a great partnership with Clarke, hopefully North can also reach triple figures.

Not sure 1 series is proof.

[mighty_west]

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Not sure 1 series in proof.

In his 6 games, he has scored 2 tons & a half century, with an average in the mid 40's with over 500 runs.

Now, he most definatly needs to find consistancy in his game, and from most teams he has been dismissed, was from his own accord than bowlers being too good for him.

[chef]

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In his 6 games, he has scored 2 tons & a half century, with an average in the mid 40's with over 500 runs.

Now, he most definatly needs to find consistancy in his game, and from most teams he has been dismissed, was from his own accord than bowlers being too good for him.

Still yet to prove that he's not a flash in the pan is all I'm saying.

[LostDoggy]

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I have to agree with chef on that.

I think he is running out of chances.

[LostDoggy]

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In his 6 games, he has scored 2 tons & a half century, with an average in the mid 40's with over 500 runs.

Now, he most definatly needs to find consistancy in his game, and from most teams he has been dismissed, was from his own accord than bowlers being too good for him.

Have said it before and will say it again, being an opener isn't all about runs. If you can't stay in there consistently and set an innings up you end up with a Jekyll and Hyde batting order, scoring big one innings, then collapsing when the middle order is exposed against a new ball swinging around the next when our openers fall cheaply. Stability is more important than hundreds at the top of the order.. Watson has scored fewer centuries than North but would be miles ahead of him in terms of performing the role of a quality opener at Test level.

[LostDoggy]

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You could say that but they did resist the temptation of picking cameron White on his one day form. I think Harris was just the next cab off the fast bowling rack

I think they resisted picking Cameron White on his Cameron White-ness. People are getting picked on 20/20 and ODI form but Cam doesn't even get spoken about. If people were getting picked on ODI and 20/20 form David Hussey and Cam should have been in the Test team for the last 4 seasons.

[Mantis]

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I think they resisted picking Cameron White on his Cameron White-ness. People are getting picked on 20/20 and ODI form but Cam doesn't even get spoken about. If people were getting picked on ODI and 20/20 form David Hussey and Cam should have been in the Test team for the last 4 seasons.

It must be Victorian thing because Phil Hughes keeps getting picked because of his Phil Hughes-ness, but Brad Hodge never got picked because of his Brad Hodge-ness.

[GVGjr]

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Solid effort by the Kiwi's today and the Aussies have a bit of work in front of them to win this one.

[chef]

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Solid effort by the Kiwi's today and the Aussies have a bit of work in front of them to win this one.

They are really struggling ATM after over 180 overs in the field, Bollinger not at 100% and Harris and Johnson not looking like getting a wicket. I must say that we are missing Watson's bowling.

[LostDoggy]

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It must be Victorian thing because Phil Hughes keeps getting picked because of his Phil Hughes-ness, but Brad Hodge never got picked because of his Brad Hodge-ness.

Bingo!