David Hussey

[LostDoggy]

Anyone hear him on SEN this morning, speaking about his career & how he wants to keep pushing for a test spot. It was great to hear a sports personality so open & honest about things, not just putting the same old stuff out there.

Spoke about the county season in England & Brad Hodge also got a mention when David was talking about his own age, with him still wanting to be apart of the Australian test team.

Seems like a real top bloke.

[chef]

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Should have gotten in the team before North, but sadly age will count against him for any future spots IMO.

[GVGjr]

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Should have gotten in the team before North, but sadly age will count against him for any future spots IMO.

Exciting cricketer but as you say he's probably too old to get into the test line-up.

[LostDoggy]

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To paraphrase your signature line, Gary, if you're Victorian you have three tests to show me you can play, but if you're a New South Welshman you have got three years to show me you can't.

If D.Huss (or Hodgey) played for NSW (or Queensland, for that matter) he would have been picked young and given every chance to succeed at Test level and be marvelled at as a wunderkid, and it's an absolute disgrace that he has been overlooked as often as he has, while the ACB continue to promote half-baked kids who play two good tests on adrenaline and coast for two years as the national coaches try to fix their technique. All the while as Australia fall lower and lower in the international standings.

The ACB would have thanked their lucky stars the Pakistan debacle happened at the same time as the FIFA World Cup which dominated the news and spared them the inquisition it deserved.

[Mantis]

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The ACB would have thanked their lucky stars the Pakistan debacle happened at the same time as the FIFA World Cup which dominated the news and spared them the inquisition it deserved.

Does anyone still care about cricket?

[Desipura]

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Does anyone still care about cricket?

No, it is just background noise on the telly. When it is on, its only cos the footy is not.

[GVGjr]

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Does anyone still care about cricket?

Care? yes, Passionate? Not at the moment.

[chef]

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Does anyone still care about cricket?

I'm not sure about care(once the Ashes start I may), but I enjoy watching twenty20 more nowadays than the other two types of cricket.

[lemmon]

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I am still a passionate cricket follower (my number one sport) and to be honest I think the sport cops a fairly raw deal on here. David has had a number of opportunities to prove himself at international level in the one day format but has let them slip him by and has been overtaken by guys who have grasped their opportunity (Ferguson, White etc). At his age and playing in such a competitive position he had to grab any opportunity he was given but sadly hasn't done so.

[Sockeye Salmon]

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I am still a passionate cricket follower (my number one sport) and to be honest I think the sport cops a fairly raw deal on here. David has had a number of opportunities to prove himself at international level in the one day format but has let them slip him by and has been overtaken by guys who have grasped their opportunity (Ferguson, White etc). At his age and playing in such a competitive position he had to grab any opportunity he was given but sadly hasn't done so.

What possible relevence does one day cricket have to test cricket?

I despise the Australian selectors and this is one reason why.

In tests, Michael Slater played 5 balls an over back down the pitch and hit the other for 4. In ODI he played 5 balls an over down the pitch and hit the bad one to the sweeper.

Different rules, different games, different skills required.

[lemmon]

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What possible relevence does one day cricket have to test cricket?

I despise the Australian selectors and this is one reason why.

In tests, Michael Slater played 5 balls an over back down the pitch and hit the other for 4. In ODI he played 5 balls an over down the pitch and hit the bad one to the sweeper.

Different rules, different games, different skills required.

Its still international cricket and a substantially better standard then the state game (against top tier nations). I'm not sure the problem with introducing players into the limited over formats first before test cricket, the majority of players in these cases have succeeded (Gilchrist, Symonds, Waton, Lee, Haddin, Johnson, etc). I think its naive to suggest that the pressure and the standard of the one day game is at such a low level as too make it redundant.

[LostDoggy]

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Its still international cricket and a substantially better standard then the state game (against top tier nations). I'm not sure the problem with introducing players into the limited over formats first before test cricket, the majority of players in these cases have succeeded (Gilchrist, Symonds, Waton, Lee, Haddin, Johnson, etc). I think its naive to suggest that the pressure and the standard of the one day game is at such a low level as too make it redundant.

International 20/20 < International one-dayers < Shield Cricket < Test Cricket.

Your form in the toughest domestic 4-day comp in the world should tell selectors more about your readiness for Test cricket than your form in some mickey mouse hitathon.

And saying that D.Huss had 5 tests to prove himself validates my above paraphrase that Vics get a couple of chances, while Watson/Symonds/Phil Hughes/North/Warner gets/got picked without justification, and kept on year after year after year of failing and failing without being dropped, and even then, they'll keep trying to fix them rather than selecting the next cab off the rank. Sure those guys named have played some good innings, but any decent Shield batsman, given a 2-year free ride in the Test arena, will have your five good innings. While they keep trying to develop these underserving players, the overemphasis on individuals has ensured that Australia's test ranking hovers somewhere between a crapshoot and who-gives-a-shit.

[Sockeye Salmon]

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International 20/20 < International one-dayers < Shield Cricket < Test Cricket.

Your form in the toughest domestic 4-day comp in the world should tell selectors more about your readiness for Test cricket than your form in some mickey mouse hitathon.

And saying that D.Huss had 5 tests to prove himself validates my above paraphrase that Vics get a couple of chances, while Watson/Symonds/Phil Hughes/North/Warner gets/got picked without justification, and kept on year after year after year of failing and failing without being dropped, and even then, they'll keep trying to fix them rather than selecting the next cab off the rank. Sure those guys named have played some good innings, but any decent Shield batsman, given a 2-year free ride in the Test arena, will have your five good innings. While they keep trying to develop these underserving players, the overemphasis on individuals has ensured that Australia's test ranking hovers somewhere between a crapshoot and who-gives-a-shit.

This

[lemmon]

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International 20/20 < International one-dayers < Shield Cricket < Test Cricket.

Your form in the toughest domestic 4-day comp in the world should tell selectors more about your readiness for Test cricket than your form in some mickey mouse hitathon.

And saying that D.Huss had 5 tests to prove himself validates my above paraphrase that Vics get a couple of chances, while Watson/Symonds/Phil Hughes/North/Warner gets/got picked without justification, and kept on year after year after year of failing and failing without being dropped, and even then, they'll keep trying to fix them rather than selecting the next cab off the rank. Sure those guys named have played some good innings, but any decent Shield batsman, given a 2-year free ride in the Test arena, will have your five good innings. While they keep trying to develop these underserving players, the overemphasis on individuals has ensured that Australia's test ranking hovers somewhere between a crapshoot and who-gives-a-shit.

The names you have picked out are dross:
Watson was our best batsmen last summer and is well on the way too fulfilling the faith

Symonds played a role that we could afford in such a successful team of a lower order hitter gun fielder and capable bowler, a role he performed well in during the second half of his test match career

Hughes averaged what? 70 odd in the shield before being picked at test level and then was dumped prematurely, he has zero relevance
to your argument

North was a good shield player for years before being picked, if anything his recent form is against your view of a good shield cricketer being more then capable at test level

Warner is a T20 specialist and has performed well in the role for NSW, you want selection based on performance, isn't Warner a prime example?

I refuse to accept the 'Vic bias' while Cricket Victoria isn't serious about producing test players, the recruitment of older guys for the aim of winning trophies has hindered the development of a number of young player but this is the path that the administration has chose.

[LostDoggy]

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The names you have picked out are dross:
Watson was our best batsmen last summer and is well on the way too fulfilling the faith

Symonds played a role that we could afford in such a successful team of a lower order hitter gun fielder and capable bowler, a role he performed well in during the second half of his test match career

Hughes averaged what? 70 odd in the shield before being picked at test level and then was dumped prematurely, he has zero relevance
to your argument

North was a good shield player for years before being picked, if anything his recent form is against your view of a good shield cricketer being more then capable at test level

Warner is a T20 specialist and has performed well in the role for NSW, you want selection based on performance, isn't Warner a prime example?

I refuse to accept the 'Vic bias' while Cricket Victoria isn't serious about producing test players, the recruitment of older guys for the aim of winning trophies has hindered the development of a number of young player but this is the path that the administration has chose.

All valid points, Lemmon. I am in violent agreement with yourself on (most of) the individuals you've mentioned, as well as Cricket Victoria's recalcitrance, but we shouldn't be as low in the test rankings as we are, and I just think CA misses the woods for the trees sometimes in the name of 'development' -- I think they've overreacted to Warnie and Pigeon's retirements, and its priorities are a little bit out of whack.

And D.Huss should have been given more time in the team.