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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34289
    #1

    Mitch Johnson...

    When fit we have:

    Siddle
    Hilfy
    Harris
    Cummins
    Pattinson
    Starc
    (Lyon)

    and others.

    So the question is, is Mitch a certainty for the next 11 he is fit for, or have 3/4 of the above blocked him out and he has to go back to the shield?
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    • GVGjr
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 44676
      #2
      Re: Mitch Johnson...

      I think his days are numbered as he is just too erratic. He needs to display some impeccable control with his bowling at the shield level before I would let him play in another test match.

      Harris is just a match by match consideration given his injury concerns.
      Lets hope Akram can work some magic with Starc


      We still need another quick to come through
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        • Throughandthrough
          Coaching Staff
          • Nov 2007
          • 3201
          #3
          Re: Mitch Johnson...

          gawn.

          And sadly i don't think Starc is much better.

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            • GVGjr
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 44676
              #4
              Re: Mitch Johnson...

              Originally posted by Throughandthrough
              gawn.

              And sadly i don't think Starc is much better.
              I think he has the potential to improve unlike Johnson but he is a way off at the moment.
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                • Remi Moses
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 14785
                  #5
                  Re: Mitch Johnson...

                  Originally posted by Throughandthrough
                  gawn.

                  And sadly i don't think Starc is much better.
                  Going a bit early aren't we? Think he'll make it but it will take time.

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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 66774
                      #6
                      Re: Mitch Johnson...

                      Originally posted by GVGjr
                      We still need another quick to come through
                      Another promising player who also has a foot related injury is Hazlewood. He has taken 17 wickets for 30 this season and just turned 21. Unfortunately he is out for 8 weeks.

                      I think Mitch Johnson is under pressure to bowl consistently and accurately. Once Cummins Pattinson and Hazelwood recover from injury and with Stark, we have some very good potential bowlers (all young) for the future.
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                        • ledge
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 14321
                          #7
                          Re: Mitch Johnson...

                          How bad is Tait, watched him last night he has no control whatsoever, how the hell did he ever get so far?
                          Bring back the biff

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                            • Greystache
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 9775
                              #8
                              Re: Mitch Johnson...

                              I can't see any way he could be an automatic selection when fit. We can't afford to go into Test matches one bowler short, which is effectively what we've done in matches he's struggled to land it on the pitch.
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                                • BulldogBelle
                                  WOOF Member
                                  • Nov 2006
                                  • 5284
                                  #9
                                  Re: Mitch Johnson...

                                  What you see is what you get with Tait. On a good day he'll take 4 wickets no worries, on a poor day he'll go for truckloads, drop catches and try to bat from square leg. All he is a 20/20 'gun' for hire, which is all he wants to be.

                                  The problem Johnson faces I think is that even if he does get back to form/fitness, is that he has to change the way he bowls. What I mean is that he looks to take a wicket every ball, and cannot build pressure. He gives the batsman a four delivery every over at least. This affects the bloke bowling at the orther end as he has to try and tighten up the runflow. Johnson is not good at bowling in partnerships. The blokes we have bowling at the moment are, and I also include Harris, Bollinger, Cummins to a degree in a group that are ahead of him in this department. Copeland is also, but just not quick enough. 140kmph + good consistent full length + swing = Test Bowler in todays cricket.

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                                    • chef
                                      Hall of Fame
                                      • Nov 2008
                                      • 14624
                                      #10
                                      Re: Mitch Johnson...

                                      Originally posted by ledge
                                      How bad is Tait, watched him last night he has no control whatsoever, how the hell did he ever get so far?
                                      He can bowl quick occasionally.
                                      The curse is dead.

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                                        • LostDoggy
                                          WOOF Member
                                          • Jan 2007
                                          • 8307
                                          #11
                                          Re: Mitch Johnson...

                                          Mitch Johnson has a very similar history to Tait. Showed plenty of promise but unfortunately consistency and accuracy, plus mental confidence issues, put them very much out of the test selection picture.

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                                            • LostDoggy
                                              WOOF Member
                                              • Jan 2007
                                              • 8307
                                              #12
                                              Re: Mitch Johnson...

                                              And yet, was picked for three straight years despite being largely shithouse, and was only dropped because of injury. That's our selection process in a nutshell.

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                                                • LostDoggy
                                                  WOOF Member
                                                  • Jan 2007
                                                  • 8307
                                                  #13
                                                  Re: Mitch Johnson...

                                                  The worst thing about his injury-forced omission is the revelation that, of course, there was a heck of a lot of talent locked out of the Test scene because of the continuing selection of a non-performer. There was never any need for us to fall to no.5 in the Test ranking.. with Johnson's hilarious bowling, the likes of Ponting and Haddin averaging 25 for two years, etc. etc., we have been essentially playing around 2 to 3 players short for two years.

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                                                    • Topdog
                                                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                                                      • Jan 2007
                                                      • 7471
                                                      #14
                                                      Re: Mitch Johnson...

                                                      I marked Johnson's papers once Cummins played in that first test. Then when Patto came in it was put beyond all doubt.

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                                                        • KT31
                                                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                                                          • Jul 2008
                                                          • 5454
                                                          #15
                                                          Re: Mitch Johnson...

                                                          Originally posted by Topdog
                                                          I marked Johnson's papers once Cummins played in that first test. Then when Patto came in it was put beyond all doubt.
                                                          ^^^^^
                                                          Agree, Johnston has been hot and cold since his Misses had a stouch with his Mum.
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