Ian Chappells Best 12

[GVGjr]

This is what Ian Chappell believes should be the team

Watson: "Opening his best position"
Warner: "Match winner, needs support"
Hughes: "Bandaid solution but he’s young"
Clarke: "Forget past traumas – he’s in form"
Hussey: "Ideal anchorman"
Henriques: "Performing consistently"
Wade: "Needs to be a good keeper"
Johnson: "Is he a WACA bowler or not?"
Starc: "Battle with Johnson for one spot"
Siddle: "Attack leader sorely missed"
Lyon: "Good finger spinner"
Smith: "A talented, smart all-round option and Clarke's considerate of spinners"

[Bulldog Revolution]

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Some crazy stuff in there

Smith has been a disgrace at the test level every time ive seen him.

I remain fundamentally unconvinced Johnson has a future

Has Henriques done anything? or is it just based on being another best former NSW under age player?

However, we agree that Cowan is not in our vision

[bulldogtragic]

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Chappeli been smokin wacky tobacky. Too much to say, but I'll just say I don't agree at all.

[Rocco Jones]

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Only role I think suits Smith is 12th man. Elite fieldsman (not sure nowhere goes with the drinks).

IMO Smith is the kind of all-rounder that at international level his batting is of a bowling all rounder level and his bowling is of a batting all rounder level of that makes sense. Basically handy number 8 and handy part time bowler.

[GVGjr]

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Only role I think suits Smith is 12th man. Elite fieldsman (not sure nowhere goes with the drinks).

IMO Smith is the kind of all-rounder that at international level his batting is of a bowling all rounder level and his bowling is of a batting all rounder level of that makes sense. Basically handy number 8 and handy part time bowler.

Rocco, thoughts on Henriques batting at 6?

[lemmon]

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Massively underrating Watsons bowling; average of sub 30 is very, very good. That lineup looks like Ian wants to wean Watson off his bowling when to date it has been his strongest suit...This is before we even consider Henriques relatively non-existent claims as a player unto himself.

[GVGjr]

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Massively underrating Watsons bowling; average of sub 30 is very, very good. That lineup looks like Ian wants to wean Watson off his bowling when to date it has been his strongest suit...This is before we even consider Henriques relatively non-existent claims as a player unto himself.

Lem, you don't think Henriques has what it takes?

My 12 would have been included Cowan at Hughes expense and probably Khawaja at 6.

[LostDoggy]

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This is what Ian Chappell believes should be the team

Watson: "Opening his best position" Hallelujah
Warner: "Match winner, needs support" Agreed
Hughes: "Bandaid solution but he’s young" My grandson is young too. doesn't make him a Test player
Clarke: "Forget past traumas – he’s in form" Past traumas? He's the best batsman in the world today
Hussey: "Ideal anchorman" Agreed but not sure in England
Henriques: "Performing consistently" Failed to go on to say - "in limited over cricket"
Wade: "Needs to be a good keeper" Fair dinkum?
Johnson: "Is he a WACA bowler or not?" Yes, he's a WACA
Starc: "Battle with Johnson for one spot" Bad luck Johnson
Siddle: "Attack leader sorely missed" Right on brother
Lyon: "Good finger spinner" Maybe
Smith: "A talented, smart all-round option and Clarke's considerate of spinners" An excellent 12th man

Onya Ian - no mention of what a prick Bradman was?

[lemmon]

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Lem, you don't think Henriques has what it takes?

My 12 would have been included Cowan at Hughes expense and probably Khawaja at 6.

At this stage he isn't even close to being up to it, first class batting average of sub 30 and one ton isn't top 6 material which is disappointing for a guy of his immense talent. He probably had the best junior pedigree of any player in the modern era, was doing extraordinary things at an incredibly young age in Sydney grade cricket and his performance in the Under 19 World Cup was dominant with bat and ball, I think his runs came at 40 odd and wickets at 10.

It hasn't transferred into first class form although his numbers are getting better (averaged 70 with the bat this year and was the form player early) but he is only 25 and has time to string a few seasons together before talking about a baggy green.

[dog town]

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I would have thought Ed Cowan is the epitome of what we are missing. Is it just me or does Ian have a giant hatred of anyone who doesn't score quickly?

[Rocco Jones]

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I was pretty harsh on Smith's batting. Maybe a number 7. Just that his bowling is handy part timer level.

Rocco, thoughts on Henriques batting at 6?

No for me. I think you have to be pretty good at both to get a spot as an allrounder for a team still near the top when it comes to test cricket. I also believe that spot is taken by Shane Watson.

To get a gig as an allrounder you must at least compete with the 6th best bat going around + offer more than a part time option with the ball.

All rounders are basically competing against Phil Hughes or Ed Cowan. The gap between batting needs to be made up with what they offer with bowling depth. Watson is 5th option, Warner 6th. Henriques would basically be the 5th pace bowler in the side, your 6th best batsman is more important than your 5th best paceman. Smith IMO doesn't offer much more than Warner with the ball. Nowhere the differen between his batting and ones I see as warranting possie as bat alone.

I would have thought Ed Cowan is the epitome of what we are missing. Is it just me or does Ian have a giant hatred of anyone who doesn't score quickly?

I like Cowan and think we need his type just think he has struggled for a bit. I posted it earlier that in the 11 first class inning from September to start of test series he had only made one 50. He just needs to consistently get into the 30-50 zone to help give us a solid base.

[dog town]

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I like Cowan and think we need his type just think he has struggled for a bit. I posted it earlier that in the 11 first class inning from September to start of test series he had only made one 50. He just needs to consistently get into the 30-50 zone to help give us a solid base.

I take your point but 45 for the series wasn't a bad effort for someone developing at this level. Had a tough gig with warm up games on mostly green wickets so did well to start the series well.

The biggest problem our batting line up has is that the top 4 all prefer opening. Watson should be suited to batting at 4 if he can adapt his game slightly but its a big question mark. I think with the side we have picked this week we have the batting order right though. Warner and Cowan are the least adaptable of the 4 in my view so they open. Could possibly be selling Warner short as he has made good runs down the order at a lower level. Would also protect him from the new ball.

[GVGjr]

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My 12 would be

Watson
Warner
Cowan
Clarke
Khawaja
Hussey
Wade
Siddle
Starc
Lyon
Bird
Doolan

[jeemak]

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I would have thought Ed Cowan is the epitome of what we are missing. Is it just me or does Ian have a giant hatred of anyone who doesn't score quickly?

Ian has a hatred of most it seems. Maybe he likes Shane Warne.

He is the worst person on TV over summer by a stretch. Coarse and spiteful.

[Bornadog]

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Ian has a hatred of most it seems. Maybe he likes Shane Warne.

He is the worst person on TV over summer by a stretch. Coarse and spiteful.

He was on the radio the other day promoting his new book - very arrogant pig as far as I am concerned.

He said Michael Clark should not have put Quiney into bat at 3 and should have batted their himself.