Sheffield Shield 2013/14

[lemmon]

With the Ryobi Cup run and done, the Shield got underway today and with 3 rounds packed together in close succession we have a busy little period. Little bit of movement between states in the off-season, most notable being a move by Lyon to NSW and Victoria losing favourite Andy McDonald in a switch with SA, somewhat offset by gaining Dan Christian.

The Vics were dismissed for 312 at the G', the notables were Cam White continuing his form with 83 and Handscomb 69, WA are 0/18 in reply. Behrendorff picked up 4.

The Blues finished up 8/275, Clarke the only one to pass 50 with his 88. Young Tassie quick Sam Rainbird took his debut Michelle with the tidy 5/57

Perennial strugglers SA are on top of competition favourites Queensland in Adelaide reaching 4/294 on the back of a big Tom Cooper knock of 165* from 206, the taleneted middle order player was ably supported by Johan Bothas' half ton.

Obviously all Aussie followers will be hoping for a season of big runs, always going to be tough for batters starting the season this early when decks should be green and seaming.

Thought some time capsule predicition might be interesting:
Finalists: Bulls and Vics
Winner: Bulls
Leading Runscorer: Joe Burns, 1050
Leading Wicket-taker: Michael Hogan 45
Wooden Spoon: WA

[GVGjr]

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I'm with you regarding the Bulls winning it. James Hopes seems to be able to keep the Bulls a strong side with his timely wickets and hard earned runs.

Klinger or Ferguson to top the run making list
WA for the spoon
Leading wicket taker - Dougie Bollinger

[lemmon]

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Cant believe that mid November and we're three rounds in already. The table looks like:



South Australia have been surprising, nice to see Hughes smack a double ton on the weekend in his first game back, keeps putting his name forward. The CA directives have been pretty obvious so far, flat decks with 12 hundreds in the first 3 rounds. Marcus North is leading the way with 2 hundreds and 444 runs at 111 in his new role opening.

Surprises amongst the leading wicket takers as well, spinners take up the first four spots. Johan Botha (15 wickets), Cam Boyce (14), Steve O'Keefe and Fawad Ahmed (11) all lead the way ahead of the seamers.

[Go_Dogs]

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SA going alright at the moment.

[Remi Moses]

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Disappointing to see Travis Head fail.
Don't get how a South African ,captaining a state side is beneficial for Australian Cricket .
Surely Klinger should be captain?

[lemmon]

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Disappointing to see Travis Head fail.
Don't get how a South African ,captaining a state side is beneficial for Australian Cricket .
Surely Klinger should be captain?

If he's the best man for the job whats the issue? I hope we can attract more international quality to the Shield, the better the standard the higher the quality of player it produces

[Remi Moses]

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If he's the best man for the job whats the issue? I hope we can attract more international quality to the Shield, the better the standard the higher the quality of player it produces

The whole concept of the Sheffield shield is to produce players capable of stepping up to higher honours. There is a leadership vacuum in the test side with Watson Haddin and Clarke in their 30's . Surely it's a better concept having a local captain the second most important comp .

[lemmon]

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The whole concept of the Sheffield shield is to produce players capable of stepping up to higher honours. There is a leadership vacuum in the test side with Watson Haddin and Clarke in their 30's . Surely it's a better concept having a local captain the second most important comp .

If Botha is deemed the best man for the job (and he was a relatively long term international skipper) then I think its a very good move. South Australia get a guy to give them the best results and the likes of Head and Hughes learn from a very good captain which wouldn't have been the case under Klinger. It better prepares these kids for leadership rather than thrusting them into the role and expecting them to learn on the job.

[Remi Moses]

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Klinger captained them a few years ago .
What's wrong with putting responsibility on Hughes or another player?
Ferguson ? Might get more out of him with more responsibility.
I think for to long now some of the Shield sides have emphasised winning it more than their role of Producing players ready to step up to the next level.
As much as it pains me to say it, that's something NSW does

[lemmon]

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Klinger captained them a few years ago .
What's wrong with putting responsibility on Hughes or another player?
Ferguson ? Might get more out of him with more responsibility.
I think for to long now some of the Shield sides have emphasised winning it more than their role of Producing players ready to step up to the next level.
As much as it pains me to say it, that's something NSW does

Why are we so willing to force someone into the role when they may not be ready? Klinger captained a side that didn't win a game for two years and hasn't produced a test cricketer outside of Peter George in a long time, its hardly a glowing endorsment. Botha and Berry are doing very good things in changing the culture of the place and they finally have some good prospects coming through.

Botha gets to teach the young kids how to be a captain, so that they may one day perform the role well but can also perform as players without the responsibility now. I'd rather that than through the burden onto a young kid who will then get mediocre results. Ferguson has done nothing to earn the honour, why should he be rewarded with it? Look at what happened with Melbourne and Trengove. Its the same mindset that sees kids pushed into the Shield when they aren't ready and the Futures League turned into an under 23 competition, something all the states and coaches saw as being a disaster for the development of young talent.

I would rather have the right man for the job, no matter the nationality, than simply anyone because they are Australian.

[Remi Moses]

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I see your point . But let's hope our cricket doesn't descend to English County cricket where players just come in and take a car and a nice pay cheque. As I said shield cricket is about producing Test cricketers and if Botha is keeping out a young potential player then its wrong .
As I said NSW concentrate on producing test players , as the Shield comp is a feeder comp

[Bulldog Joe]

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I see your point . But let's hope our cricket doesn't descend to English County cricket where players just come in and take a car and a nice pay cheque. As I said shield cricket is about producing Test cricketers and if Botha is keeping out a young potential player then its wrong .
As I said NSW concentrate on producing test players , as the Shield comp is a feeder comp

Tasmania provide a good example of producing test cricketers and from a small base. They developed from using international expertise at the start and have actually produced some very good cricketers and leaders over the last 20 years.

[Remi Moses]

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They had to when they first entered . What concerns me is when the lines get blurred from being a feeder comp to concerning yourself with winning Shields.
Let's be honest it's parochial nonsense, and personally I look at who is performing rather than who is leading the Shield table.

[lemmon]

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If someone like Adam Zampa deserved a spot he would be being picked ahead of Botha, I like young players having to earn their spots, its why CA should be doing everything in their power to get the Pontings and Husseys to play state cricket when they retire. Botha is the leading wicket taker in the competition and if Hughes manages to improve his spin by playing with him its another big plus. The higher the standard of the competition the better prepared younger players will be

[Remi Moses]

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On the flip side if a player performs well in club cricket and can't get a look in , whom do they replace ?
Seen players play in England after their careers are over, and it didn't help them one iota .