No Ball Check/Review upon a Wicket...

[bulldogtragic]

It might just be me, but I thought I'd ask.

I predominantly watch test cricket for the bowling innings. I enjoy watching us bat, but I love watching us bowl. I love the anticipation of every ball and the excitement of a wicket. Herein lies my bugbear which is really getting to me.

You wait, you anticipate, it happens - a wicket and the happiness and excitement. Then everything stops. Dead, while the umpire waves his hands around, batsman walks back, excitement of the huddle tones down and the anticipation turns to oh my god this might be tragedy not excitement. It comes back and whatever happens, the moment is gone. I watch it for that moment and at the moment virtually every dismissal is being checked (see Siddle 10 inches behind the line).

I'm finding myself really disappointed with this, I feel cheated. Why can't the 3rd just review it and let everyone enjoy a massive clean bowled and if need be call through.

Is it just me?

[Greystache]

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Gives me the shits and completely kills the spirit of the game. It's just another ridiculous thing brought in by the Indians to try to gain an advantage on a technicality.

[Twodogs]

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It gives me the shits too but that's not to say that I didn't enjoy the one England had go against them on Friday hugely.

[bulldogtragic]

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It gives me the shits too but that's not to say that I didn't enjoy the one England had go against them on Friday hugely.

Oh, I never said anything about when other teams bowl.

But surely the 3rd can review it independently for every dismissal and leave the theatre in tact.

[Bornadog]

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Oh, I never said anything about when other teams bowl.

But surely the 3rd can review it independently for every dismissal and leave the theatre in tact.

Completely agree with this, this is how they should do it.

[lemmon]

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Agree that all dismissals should be checked by the third. Not sure why it hasn't been implemented considering how common sense it is

[LostDoggy]

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If umpires at the bowling end stood where they did for 100 years (6 feet behind the stumps) rather than where they do now (15 feet behind) then there would be no reason to review because the umpire would have called and signalled no ball as it happened.

[Sedat]

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If umpires at the bowling end stood where they did for 100 years (6 feet behind the stumps) rather than where they do now (15 feet behind) then there would be no reason to review because the umpire would have called and signalled no ball as it happened.

Why do they stand so far back these days EJ? Are they expecting a Colin Croft lookalike to come in and knock them over?

[LostDoggy]

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They're instructed that way. I can only presume its to allow bowlers to get closer into the wicket. Lillie had no problem nor did any other bowler for the last 100 years. I would have thought getting calls right was more important. You can only wonder how many noees go by undetected.

[Twodogs]

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They're instructed that way. I can only presume its to allow bowlers to get closer into the wicket. Lillie had no problem nor did any other bowler for the last 100 years. I would have thought getting calls right was more important. You can only wonder how many noees go by undetected.

I'm astounded. We might have as well not have umpires and have the whole game administered by a robot that makes LBW decision based on pure Pysics.

[LostDoggy]

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I'm astounded. We might have as well not have umpires and have the whole game administered by a robot that makes LBW decision based on pure Pysics.

It's only a matter of time till they stick a hat-rack behind the stumps mate

Think about it, the square leg umpire is already a waste of space. Did you know they are instructed not to stand in line with the popping crease because if they do they get in the way of the tv cameras?

[Remi Moses]

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I'm astounded. We might have as well not have umpires and have the whole game administered by a robot that makes LBW decision based on pure Pysics.

The Carberry LBW hawk eye gave was a joke.
The Aussies barely appealed yet the cartoon animation rubbish had it hitting!!
Clearly looked like missing leg

[lemmon]

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It's only a matter of time till they stick a hat-rack behind the stumps mate

Think about it, the square leg umpire is already a waste of space. Did you know they are instructed not to stand in line with the popping crease because if they do they get in the way of the tv cameras?

Haven't actually heard your opinion on DRS EJ, mind sharing?

[LostDoggy]

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Haven't actually heard your opinion on DRS EJ, mind sharing?

Where it utilises proven technology I have no issue with it. I learnt years ago that the human eye cannot beat TV replays for run-outs and stumpings.

I have severe doubts about the technology used for LBW's, particularly, as Remi Moses points out, the supposed trajectory of hawk-eye as it is neither scientific nor conclusive. Many if not most denials of LBW appeals in Australia come about because, in the opinon of the umpire, the ball is going to miss going over the top. The TV umpire has a one dimensional view of the incident as opposed to the officating umpire who has a three dimensional view and therefore an understanding of depth, ie from where the ball makes contact to the relative position of the stumps.

I have been super critical of allowing players to question the umpire's decision and to request a second opinion. I believe this is foreign to the notion of accepting the umpire's decision which is a concept accepted in every day life but unfortunately no longer in cricket. I believe the only remedy, which I still think is not ideal, is following an appeal, if there is any doubt in the umpire's mind then he and he alone should have the right to call for a decision from the third umpire as they do now for run-outs and stumpings.

All of this of course can be eliminated when batsmen walk and fieldsman only appeal when they know the decision will be out. I live in dreamland that this will happen one day

[bulldogtragic]

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Re watching the last day of play on Foxtel.

Umpires are checking when there is 4 inches behind the line. It'd so deflating to the exhiliaration of the wicket, and I know the outcome. This might just might be number one pet hate...