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  • LostDoggy
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
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    Haddin's back up?

    With Gilly moving on and Haddin seen as the replacement who moves in as the deputy to Haddin?
  • hujsh
    Hall of Fame
    • Nov 2007
    • 11849

    #2
    Re: Haddin's back up?

    Ronchi first. Then Wade maybe
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    • bulldogtragic
      The List Manager
      • Jan 2007
      • 34289

      #3
      Re: Haddin's back up?

      Its got to be a new south welshman, with Haddin already in, maybe Cricket Australia could coax Phil Emery out of retirement.

      If not, Ronchi.
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      • GVGjr
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 44722

        #4
        Re: Haddin's back up?

        Originally posted by 42-C-3
        Its got to be a new south welshman, with Haddin already in, maybe Cricket Australia could coax Phil Emery out of retirement.

        If not, Ronchi.

        If Gilchrist plays a season of domestic cricket though wont Ronchi have to look for another state? He gets a game when Gilly is on National duties but isn't always picked when Gilchrist.

        I wonder if someone like Paine might be looked at.
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        • hujsh
          Hall of Fame
          • Nov 2007
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          #5
          Re: Haddin's back up?

          Originally posted by GVGjr
          If Gilchrist plays a season of domestic cricket though wont Ronchi have to look for another state? He gets a game when Gilly is on National duties but isn't always picked when Gilchrist.

          I wonder if someone like Paine might be looked at.
          Paine has been on and off over the few years.

          I think they tried to get him to open in the Pura Cup at one stage so he can bat. Last year he kept in the PC 3 times

          He opens in the FRC and that is where he is at his best.
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          • hujsh
            Hall of Fame
            • Nov 2007
            • 11849

            #6
            Re: Haddin's back up?

            Originally posted by 42-C-3
            Its got to be a new south welshman, with Haddin already in, maybe Cricket Australia could coax Phil Emery out of retirement.

            If not, Ronchi.
            Now that you mention it the other NSW keeper can bat as well. Might not be too impossible
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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              #7
              Re: Haddin's back up?

              Originally posted by 42-C-3
              Its got to be a new south welshman, with Haddin already in, maybe Cricket Australia could coax Phil Emery out of retirement.

              If not, Ronchi.
              Haddin is a no brainer for the spot. His keeping is sound and his batting will be solid for Australia but in my opinion there is no logical successor. There is some limitations on every other keeper at the moment.

              Haddin is 30 though and will only probably hold the spot for 3 seasons so it would be good to have a successor already picked out. For what it's worth I'm not sold on Ronchi for anything other than limited over cricket.

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              • LostDoggy
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8307

                #8
                Re: Haddin's back up?

                Isn't it time Australia think about rebuilding rather than debuting 30+yr in the test side?
                Its not like they will be there for the next 10 years. Its not time to top up with fill in for players that were legends of the game.
                I'm all for David Hussey getting a go but he might have missed his boat.
                India seems to have done well with 19 yo fast bowlers

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                • GVGjr
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 44722

                  #9
                  Re: Haddin's back up?

                  Originally posted by ErnieSigley
                  Isn't it time Australia think about rebuilding rather than debuting 30+yr in the test side?
                  And your replacement for Gilchrist would be?

                  Originally posted by ErnieSigley
                  Its not like they will be there for the next 10 years. Its not time to top up with fill in for players that were legends of the game.
                  I'm all for David Hussey getting a go but he might have missed his boat.
                  India seems to have done well with 19 yo fast bowlers
                  I tend to think we don't give enough youngsters a go but the likes of Pakistan and India tend to champion a couple of young players in most touring squads and if the opportunity arises they then play them. We take a more conservative view and rather than play a Henriques, for arguments sake, we would call for a replacement.

                  I think one of the problems is that most states have a couple of players that will never play test cricket stifling the development of some of the youngsters. It keeps state cricket strong when the likes of Langer stay on but it means opportunities for the younger players are limited.
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                  • hujsh
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                    • Nov 2007
                    • 11849

                    #10
                    Re: Haddin's back up?

                    Originally posted by GVGjr
                    I think one of the problems is that most states have a couple of players that will never play test cricket stifling the development of some of the youngsters. It keeps state cricket strong when the likes of Langer stay on but it means opportunities for the younger players are limited.
                    It's about that balance. We don't want a comp of has beens but we also don't want an U-21 competition either. Because what's the point of young players playing state cricket without being tested?
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                    • Bulldog Revolution
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 3928

                      #11
                      Re: Haddin's back up?

                      Originally posted by GVGjr
                      And your replacement for Gilchrist would be?

                      I tend to think we don't give enough youngsters a go but the likes of Pakistan and India tend to champion a couple of young players in most touring squads and if the opportunity arises they then play them. We take a more conservative view and rather than play a Henriques, for arguments sake, we would call for a replacement.

                      I think one of the problems is that most states have a couple of players that will never play test cricket stifling the development of some of the youngsters. It keeps state cricket strong when the likes of Langer stay on but it means opportunities for the younger players are limited.
                      Its a difficult balance between development and picking the best performed players. I have similar selection dilemmas over the composition of the Australian Boomers (National Basketball Team)

                      Do you pick players on potential because you are trying to develop a squad capable of challenging at a world level?

                      or

                      Do you pick the best performed players because they have earnt the right to represent the country?

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                      • GVGjr
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 44722

                        #12
                        Re: Haddin's back up?

                        Originally posted by Bulldog Revolution
                        Its a difficult balance between development and picking the best performed players. I have similar selection dilemmas over the composition of the Australian Boomers (National Basketball Team)

                        Do you pick players on potential because you are trying to develop a squad capable of challenging at a world level?

                        or

                        Do you pick the best performed players because they have earnt the right to represent the country?
                        It depends on what contest the Boomers are playing. If it's the Olympics or World Championships then simply pick the best side that can get us into medal contention. If it's exhibition games against the Chinese then pick the best performed players.

                        I am very interested to see which players the Boomers select and I'm looking forward to seeing a frontline of Bogut, Anstey, Andersen, Neilsen and perhaps Jawai.
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                        • LostDoggy
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8307

                          #13
                          Re: Haddin's back up?

                          Originally posted by GVGjr
                          And your replacement for Gilchrist would be?
                          No one can replace Gilchirst so why not roll the dice and try a guy thats early 20s say.Could be bad or it could be good.

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                          • GVGjr
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 44722

                            #14
                            Re: Haddin's back up?

                            Originally posted by ErnieSigley
                            No one can replace Gilchirst so why no roll the dice and try a guy thats early 20s say.Could be bad or it could be good.
                            But if you don't think Haddin is necessarily the right choice who are you nominating?
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                            • LostDoggy
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8307

                              #15
                              Re: Haddin's back up?

                              Originally posted by GVGjr
                              But if you don't think Haddin is necessarily the right choice who are you nominating?
                              I have no idea who is available just think its time the side thought about rebuilding rather than blooding 30+ yo's.
                              I understand Haddin is a reasonable bat but no one will be as good as Gilchirst at batting so why not just go for the most talented youngster?

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