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  • LostDoggy
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8307

    #16
    Re: ICC double standards

    Originally posted by EJ Smith
    Next time you sit at Telstra Dome on a day when it rains persistently and the temperature peaks at nine degrees, remember standing in the mud and enduring the cold at suburban grounds.
    Whats that got to do with the AFL?
    They can play cricket under cover too so does that mean the ICC is good too

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    • LostDoggy
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 8307

      #17
      Re: ICC double standards

      Originally posted by EJ Smith
      The Administration of the AFL is outstanding.
      Surely thats a piss take?

      The AFL admin is a reason why the game hasn't gone far beyond Australia.

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      • hujsh
        Hall of Fame
        • Nov 2007
        • 11848

        #18
        Re: ICC double standards

        The AFL has done well to spread the sport across the nation when compared to Rugby.

        They have also made the competition more even.

        Allot of people would say that they have screwed with the game far too many times however. The only rule that hasn't screwed something up seems to be the 50m line.
        [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          #19
          Re: ICC double standards

          This idea of burning effigies has genius written all over it. I wonder why I have not before now set alight a home-made caricature of a hated public figure. Such an inexpensive yet impressively visual method of venting one's feelings and making them widely known.

          Where to start, where to start?

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          • The Coon Dog
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jan 2007
            • 7579

            #20
            Re: ICC double standards

            Originally posted by Lantern
            This idea of burning effigies has genius written all over it. I wonder why I have not before now set alight a home-made caricature of a hated public figure. Such an inexpensive yet impressively visual method of venting one's feelings and making them widely known.

            Where to start, where to start?
            Here! here!

            [COLOR="Red"][B][U][COLOR="Blue"]85, 92, 97, 98, 08, 09, 10... Break the curse![/COLOR][/U][/B][/COLOR]

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            • hujsh
              Hall of Fame
              • Nov 2007
              • 11848

              #21
              Re: ICC double standards

              Originally posted by The Coon Dog
              Here! here!

              WTF
              [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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              • Twodogs
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 27656

                #22
                Re: ICC double standards

                Originally posted by ErnieSigley
                Surely thats a piss take?

                The AFL admin is a reason why the game hasn't gone far beyond Australia.


                And thank Christ they havent gone off-shore. Then we'd be whinging about how the Indians have ****ed up footy.





                I'm in the AFL commision doing a great job camp.
                They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                • LostDoggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8307

                  #23
                  Re: ICC double standards

                  Originally posted by ErnieSigley
                  Surely thats a piss take?

                  The AFL admin is a reason why the game hasn't gone far beyond Australia.
                  You can't be serious.

                  Are you Acker in disguise?

                  Name one sporting body in Australia which has outperformed the AFL. You might even try the rest of the world.

                  I'll say it again. Look at share of audience, advertising revenue, expansion of market (Brisbane Lions get more people to the game than the Broncos, Swans get more people than Manly).

                  Look at the financial strength of the organisation. All this despite major competition from international sports like Soccer and Rugby Union who can only dream of the number of bums on seats scored by the AFL.

                  And finally ask yourself where we (WB) might be without their support.

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                  • hujsh
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 11848

                    #24
                    Re: ICC double standards

                    Originally posted by EJ Smith
                    I'll say it again. Look at share of audience, advertising revenue, expansion of market (Brisbane Lions get more people to the game than the Broncos, Swans get more people than Manly).
                    To be fair, i don't think they can seat as much people at Rugby games.

                    What are the capacity crowds?
                    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                    • hujsh
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 11848

                      #25
                      Re: ICC double standards

                      Originally posted by Twodogs
                      And thank Christ they havent gone off-shore. Then we'd be whinging about how the Indians have ****ed up footy.
                      Yes! I am happy with the AFL being all for Australlia.
                      [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                      • LostDoggy
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8307

                        #26
                        Re: ICC double standards

                        Originally posted by hujsh
                        To be fair, i don't think they can seat as much people at Rugby games.

                        What are the capacity crowds?
                        If that is the case, and I don't think it is, get a bigger ground or follow the lead of the AFL and get them off suburban s***heaps and build a decent stadium.

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                        • hujsh
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 11848

                          #27
                          Re: ICC double standards

                          Originally posted by EJ Smith
                          If that is the case, and I don't think it is, get a bigger ground or follow the lead of the AFL and get them off suburban s***heaps and build a decent stadium.
                          The average capacity (excluding Suncorp and ANZ) seams to be 15-25 thousand.

                          The Broncos get bigger crowds than the Lions.
                          [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            #28
                            Re: ICC double standards

                            Originally posted by EJ Smith
                            You can't be serious.
                            Are you Acker in disguise?
                            Thanks Acker isn't as bad these days.
                            Are you Demetriou in disguise?

                            Originally posted by EJ Smith
                            Name one sporting body in Australia which has outperformed the AFL. You might even try the rest of the world.
                            World? Don't make me laugh. No gives a stuff about the AFL outside Australia.
                            How do you judge whether they over performed other Australian sports. Yes they get bigger crowds but can't be the only factor. Its the indigenous game of course its going to be popular here.
                            Cricket Australia has 3 time in a row World Cup side and had the best test side, I'd say thats better performed than the AFL.

                            Originally posted by EJ Smith
                            I'll say it again. Look at share of audience, advertising revenue, expansion of market (Brisbane Lions get more people to the game than the Broncos, Swans get more people than Manly).
                            Thats all good. However playing for Broncos or Manly is not the pinnacle of the sport. Even Rugby league has a 2 levels highers than the AFL. Compare that to SOO or International rules.

                            Originally posted by EJ Smith
                            Look at the financial strength of the organisation. All this despite major competition from international sports like Soccer and Rugby Union who can only dream of the number of bums on seats scored by the AFL.
                            Yes no one watches the World Cup of Football. The AFL can only dream there.


                            Originally posted by EJ Smith
                            And finally ask yourself where we (WB) might be without their support.
                            I support the team not the league. Without the Bulldogs, I'd watch another sport.

                            Obviously you've turned a blind eye to umpiring issues (worse than most sports), rules changes, suspension and tribunal inconsistencies, the uneven draw, the unbalanced game day/time allocations, unbalanced free to air tv coverage, the drugs issue and a number of other issues.

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                            • hujsh
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 11848

                              #29
                              Re: ICC double standards

                              I think the AFL generally does good long term jobs but almost every decision they make in current time is crap. Like in 2003 people would have said what a good job they did in Queensland but they did screw over Fitzroy supporters and wouldn't have received much praise then.
                              [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                              • Twodogs
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 27656

                                #30
                                Re: ICC double standards

                                Originally posted by ErnieSigley


                                I support the team not the league. Without the Bulldogs, I'd watch another sport.

                                Without the current AFL administration you'd be watching another sport. We'd be dead in the water without the money the Commision brings in for rights and other revenue sources they've initiated or improved.

                                Originally posted by ErnieSigley
                                Obviously you've turned a blind eye to umpiring issues (worse than most sports), rules changes, suspension and tribunal inconsistencies, the uneven draw, the unbalanced game day/time allocations, unbalanced free to air tv coverage, the drugs issue and a number of other issues.

                                If we had 16 teams playing a 30 round season then we could address most of your points. We dont so equity goes out of the window and we make do as best we can. The AFL is hamstrung by blockbusters, making sure that teams get the correct breaks between games, a fixture list that has games in every state and territory. They either make every team participate in blockbusters or try and assress the problems with cash offsets to the clubs that miss out-I think they have chosen the right path.



                                Originally posted by ErnieSigley
                                Obviously you've turned a blind eye to umpiring issues (worse than most sports), rules changes, suspension and tribunal inconsistencies,
                                Umpires are umpires-ours are too showy and want to be involved in the contest far too much but that's easily fixed. Rule changes are overrated in terms of thgeir affect on the game and most of the ones the commitee brings in are pretty common sense anyway.



                                And drugs? Ernie is it any suprise that, of 680+ mainly adolescent blokes that suddenly have a fair bit of money, that some of them get into drugs? Give me a break! The AFL had a policy on this long before most sporting bodies.
                                They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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