Fremantle's Ryan Crowley tests positive to banned substance

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  • Twodogs
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    • Nov 2006
    • 27654

    #31
    Re: Fremantle's Ryan Crowley tests positive to banned substance

    Originally posted by westdog54
    Can appeal if he chooses to but risks a larger penalty.

    What worked in his advantage was that it wasn't a prohibited performance enhancing substance.
    It was methadone wasn't it? How does that get into the system of an AFL footballer? I can't imagine him waiting at the little hatch in the chemists to get dosed.
    They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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    • Remi Moses
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2009
      • 14785

      #32
      Re: Fremantle's Ryan Crowley tests positive to banned substance

      Freo are better off without Ryan Crowley.
      Been a great warrior for them , but their midfield seems to perform better without him.

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      • 1eyedog
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        • Mar 2008
        • 13186

        #33
        Re: Fremantle's Ryan Crowley tests positive to banned substance

        Originally posted by Twodogs
        It was methadone wasn't it? How does that get into the system of an AFL footballer? I can't imagine him waiting at the little hatch in the chemists to get dosed.
        Was in a pain killer. They'll get him back in, gun tagger and they'll need him to look after Mitchell or Bont in the granny.
        But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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        • Happy Days
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          • May 2008
          • 10086

          #34
          Re: Fremantle's Ryan Crowley tests positive to banned substance

          Originally posted by 1eyedog
          Was in a pain killer. They'll get him back in, gun tagger and they'll need him to look after Mitchell or Bont in the granny.
          "Pain killer"
          - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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          • 1eyedog
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            • Mar 2008
            • 13186

            #35
            Re: Fremantle's Ryan Crowley tests positive to banned substance

            Originally posted by Happy Days
            "Pain killer"
            huh?
            But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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            • Twodogs
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              • Nov 2006
              • 27654

              #36
              Re: Fremantle's Ryan Crowley tests positive to banned substance

              Originally posted by 1eyedog
              Was in a pain killer. They'll get him back in, gun tagger and they'll need him to look after Mitchell or Bont in the granny.


              But it's not the sort of thing you take by accident. It's a scheduled medicine that I had to jump through hoops and spend a couple of weeks in rehab to be prescribed. The pharmicist told me this morning that the only way to get it outside of being prescribed by a drug and alcohol doctor is to get it off the street.
              They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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              • Axe Man
                Hall of Fame
                • Nov 2008
                • 11007

                #37
                Re: Fremantle's Ryan Crowley tests positive to banned substance

                Originally posted by Twodogs
                But it's not the sort of thing you take by accident. It's a scheduled medicine that I had to jump through hoops and spend a couple of weeks in rehab to be prescribed. The pharmicist told me this morning that the only way to get it outside of being prescribed by a drug and alcohol doctor is to get it off the street.
                From the Age:

                Fairfax has previously reported that the relevant banned substance in the Crowley case was methodone, and that the player told the tribunal in a one-day hearing this year that he did not know the drug was in the painkillers an allied health professional, not connected to Fremantle Football Club, gave him to help with back pain.

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                • Happy Days
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                  • May 2008
                  • 10086

                  #38
                  Re: Fremantle's Ryan Crowley tests positive to banned substance

                  Originally posted by 1eyedog
                  huh?
                  Why does one usually take methadone?

                  As Twodogs said, it's not exactly a go-to prescribed painkiller.
                  - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                  • 1eyedog
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                    • Mar 2008
                    • 13186

                    #39
                    Re: Fremantle's Ryan Crowley tests positive to banned substance

                    Originally posted by Happy Days
                    Why does one usually take methadone?

                    As Twodogs said, it's not exactly a go-to prescribed painkiller.
                    Isn't it a compound in codiene or isn't codiene a natural compound found in methadone? I can't remember...
                    But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                    • Twodogs
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                      • Nov 2006
                      • 27654

                      #40
                      Re: Fremantle's Ryan Crowley tests positive to banned substance

                      Originally posted by Happy Days
                      Why does one usually take methadone?

                      As Twodogs said, it's not exactly a go-to prescribed painkiller.

                      Its typically used by recovering addicts of opioids. Heroin mostly. But as an aside my pharmicist also said this morning that people who become addicted to codeine also are prescribed methadone.
                      They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                      • Happy Days
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                        • May 2008
                        • 10086

                        #41
                        Re: Fremantle's Ryan Crowley tests positive to banned substance

                        Originally posted by Twodogs
                        Its typically used by recovering addicts of opioids. Heroin mostly. But as an aside my pharmicist also said this morning that people who become addicted to codeine also are prescribed methadone.
                        Bingo.

                        There's more to this, I'm sure of it.
                        - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                        • Twodogs
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                          • Nov 2006
                          • 27654

                          #42
                          Re: Fremantle's Ryan Crowley tests positive to banned substance

                          I think the key question is What's a Allied Health Professional and why/how are they prescribing any substance at all that contains a scheduled substance that usually only prescribed by drug and alcohol doctors.
                          They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                          • 1eyedog
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                            • Mar 2008
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                            #43
                            Re: Fremantle's Ryan Crowley tests positive to banned substance

                            Originally posted by Twodogs
                            Its typically used by recovering addicts of opioids. Heroin mostly. But as an aside my pharmicist also said this morning that people who become addicted to codeine also are prescribed methadone.
                            Exactly, I used to drive a mate who was recovering to the chemist every third day. I knew there was a codeine / meth connection but I couldn't remember what it was.

                            Originally posted by Happy Days
                            Bingo.

                            There's more to this, I'm sure of it.
                            I'm sure you are looking into it too much. If Crowley needs methadone as you're implying it means he's been on H, not just once or twice but many times and recently. You can't hide a H habit, you just can't.
                            Last edited by 1eyedog; 12-06-2015, 09:43 PM. Reason: for accuracy
                            But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                            • 1eyedog
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                              • Mar 2008
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                              #44
                              Re: Fremantle's Ryan Crowley tests positive to banned substance

                              Originally posted by Twodogs
                              I think the key question is What's a Allied Health Professional and why/how are they prescribing any substance at all that contains a scheduled substance that usually only prescribed by drug and alcohol doctors.
                              A Dank?
                              But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                              • boydogs
                                WOOF Member
                                • Apr 2009
                                • 5842

                                #45
                                Re: Fremantle's Ryan Crowley tests positive to banned substance

                                Originally posted by Twodogs
                                I think the key question is What's a Allied Health Professional and why/how are they prescribing any substance at all that contains a scheduled substance that usually only prescribed by drug and alcohol doctors.
                                Or looking at it another way, why are they prescribing a substance banned under the WADA code to a professional athlete

                                Not that it matters, WADA don't care what the reason is if you've got the substance in your system. Saad got done for an unlabelled ingredient
                                If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

                                Formerly gogriff

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