Etihad Stadium - New Initiatives

[Webby]

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Another thing I haven't heard picked up on is the irony-cum-arrogance of Collingwood, of late.

A couple of weeks ago, we all recall Collingwood's howls when the Swans moved a single game 25 minutes up the road. Does anyone find it slightly galling that, two weeks later, the Collingwood president is basically demolishing five clubs' home ground and a tennis stadium so as to build a spare play-thing over the road to their own headquarters?

The double standards are staggering..

[Eastdog]

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Etihad needs to stay. What a huge mess it would be if they started taking it down.

[Ghost Dog]

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Melbourne is so P.C. these days, if we had cheerleaders in the AFL, we would have to have 'man-leaders' in the women's game.
FFS which other sport has an explanation of the rules on its scoreboard? AFL is so endearingly insecure.

[hujsh]

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Melbourne is so P.C. these days, if we had cheerleaders in the AFL, we would have to have 'man-leaders' in the women's game.
FFS which other sport has an explanation of the rules on its scoreboard? AFL is so endearingly insecure.

No idea what the relevance of this is.

[Sedat]

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Etihad needs to stay. What a huge mess it would be if they started taking it down.

The market will dictate whether or not Etihad stays - agree that it makes no sense to pull it down but if the AFL can sell it for a massive price in 2025 and then get some suckers in the state and federal govts to fund a new stadium they wouldn't blink at the opportunity.

[Webby]

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Egate is the logical spot IF a new stadium were ever to be built. Etihad has some fundamental design issues, so if the land values at Etihad more than covered the cost of constructing a new one, Egate is the logical spot.

Think about it. All of Melbourne's Eastern and Southeastern rail traffic funnels through Richmond station - just south of the MCG.
All of Melbourne's Western and Northwestern rail traffic funnels through North Melbourne station.

North Melbourne station is directly north of the Egate area. The Egate area is ripe for development. A causeway footbridge from
north Melbourne station over the rail tracks would service an Egate stadium perfectly. Meanwhile, on the other side of the stadium, a tram already terminates on Footscray Road. Just as us north/westerners need to change at Flinders and get a train one stop to Richmond or Jolimont, south/easterners could change at Southern Cross and get a train one stop to North Melbourne. It's same/same.

It's the perfect place IF the sums eventually suggest Etihad should be demolished and cashed in for the land value.

The pros are that the new stadium can be the impetus for pushing the new development area - just as it was with the Docklands. It also means that the north/western clubs have a ground share location which makes sense, whilst the same applies to the south/eastern clubs at the 'G'.

By north/western clubs, I mean WB, NM, Carl, Ess and Geel (overflow). That's 5 of the 10 Vic clubs.

It also keeps at least a hint of geographical tribalism in place. Something that's completely lost with one big 'precinct'.

[soupman]

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While I am not in favour of the knock Etihad down argument if they do the E gate site makes much more sense from a number of perspectives.

1. It doesn't force the ridiculous redevelopment of a major station, and is already serviced by a sufficiently sized station. Even the new Arden station would be close enough to walk to.

2. It no longer "blocks off Docklands" (something I'm not sure is a thing anyway) but is still in close proximity and flows on nicely from where the wheel is located. If they could redevelop E gate and not turn it into some concrete monstrosity it might actually help Docklands.

3. Unlike the MCG precinct there is actually space to put a stadium without having to perform some amazing feat of engineering. There is nowhere in the MCG precinct where you could build the stadium without compromising some other huge facility. Moving Highsense or any other venue makes no sense practically or financially.

4. It would be infinitely cheaper than the ridiculous proposal Eddie is making

5. It does serve the North and West better than another stadium next to the MCG would

6. It places less strain on already busy roads, and would feed nicely into the Western Distributor project as well.

[jeemak]

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What would be nice for the rail lines moving through Richmond to Flinders street is some greenery. It's the perfect space for an innovative open multi purpose public area or elevated parkland. The value might not seem apparent now, but as the sprawl continues and inner urban areas become more dense the existing green space isn't going to be sufficient for the population.

Long term I think there's better value to the public with a stadium servicing the north and western sides of town that is train accessible and either Docklands or EGate.

[F'scary]

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I've mentioned this before and I hate to bang on about it again, but, can the catering company run a workshop with their staff, especially those that work in the Victory Room, to explain the difference between the Responsible Service of Alcohol and the Slow Service of Alcohol. Seriously, trying to get a drink in the social club within an hour of the first bounce takes as long as Matthew Lloyd took for a shot at goal.

Yeah, but Mathew Lloyd threw the grass up into air, those guys are probably smoking it.

[Twodogs]

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I bought a regular, small to any reasonable user of English, container of chips and it was tiny. The chips in it were disgusting and we didn't finish them between three of us but that's not the point. Even Donald Trump would look he had huge hands holding one of the regular chip containers at Etihad.

[Bornadog]

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I bought a regular, small to any reasonable user of English, container of chips and it was tiny. The chips in it were disgusting and we didn't finish them between three of us but that's not the point. Even Donald Trump would look he had huge hands holding one of the regular chip containers at Etihad.

Most of the food at Etihad is disgusting. The only thing I like is the steak sandwiches that are sold in the little carts on ground level in one or two spots, however, they are not cheap and sometimes you do feel like a bucket of chips. How hard can it be to make Chips FFS,

[Sedat]

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Those congealed, borderline inedible chips are sold at a massive mark-up by Spotless Catering, whose former director was the late Ron Evans, former AFL commissioner. Homebush Stadium, the world's most soulless, unloved and substandard footy ground, is owned by a consortium that includes Mike Fitzpatrick.

Filthy lucre - this is the God that the AFL kneels down and prays to. It is the only thing they care about. If they can make a buck out of selling Etihad in 2025, the wrecking ball will be unleashed with Usain Bolt-style speed.

[Twodogs]

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Those congealed, borderline inedible chips are sold at a massive mark-up by Spotless Catering, whose former director was the late Ron Evans, former AFL commissioner. Homebush Stadium, the world's most soulless, unloved and substandard footy ground, is owned by a consortium that includes Mike Fitzpatrick.

Filthy lucre - this is the God that the AFL kneels down and prays to. It is the only thing they care about. If they can make a buck out of selling Etihad in 2025, the wrecking ball will be unleashed with Usain Bolt-style speed.

Its all greed. I kind of feel sorry for people who don't understand when enough is enough, greed rules their world view and they will never be satisfied, no matter how much of something they have.

A bit like cats eating and eating and eating until all their food is gone because they don't understand or have a concept that the food in their bowl will still be there later.

[Twodogs]

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Most of the food at Etihad is disgusting. The only thing I like is the steak sandwiches that are sold in the little carts on ground level in one or two spots, however, they are not cheap and sometimes you do feel like a bucket of chips. How hard can it be to make Chips FFS,

The old man convinced me to have a pie, usually I don't eat junk food and certainly not pies for 5 bucks and that's cheap? How is a five dollar pie cheap? But it wasn't bad. Probably hadn't been reheated half a dozen times.

[Bulldog4life]

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The old man convinced me to have a pie, usually I don't eat junk food and certainly not pies for 5 bucks and that's cheap? How is a five dollar pie cheap? But it wasn't bad. Probably hadn't been reheated half a dozen times.

We just take our own tucker. So much easier too as well as cheaper.