Etihad Stadium - New Initiatives

[Eastdog]

Re: Etihad Stadium - New Initiatives

Yawn, the AFL-sanctioned 24-hour news cycle at work.

True words there Sedat.

[Eastdog]

Re: Etihad Stadium - New Initiatives

Egate is the logical spot IF a new stadium were ever to be built. Etihad has some fundamental design issues, so if the land values at Etihad more than covered the cost of constructing a new one, Egate is the logical spot.

Think about it. All of Melbourne's Eastern and Southeastern rail traffic funnels through Richmond station - just south of the MCG.
All of Melbourne's Western and Northwestern rail traffic funnels through North Melbourne station.

North Melbourne station is directly north of the Egate area. The Egate area is ripe for development. A causeway footbridge from
north Melbourne station over the rail tracks would service an Egate stadium perfectly. Meanwhile, on the other side of the stadium, a tram already terminates on Footscray Road. Just as us north/westerners need to change at Flinders and get a train one stop to Richmond or Jolimont, south/easterners could change at Southern Cross and get a train one stop to North Melbourne. It's same/same.

It's the perfect place IF the sums eventually suggest Etihad should be demolished and cashed in for the land value.

The pros are that the new stadium can be the impetus for pushing the new development area - just as it was with the Docklands. It also means that the north/western clubs have a ground share location which makes sense, whilst the same applies to the south/eastern clubs at the 'G'.

By north/western clubs, I mean WB, NM, Carl, Ess and Geel (overflow). That's 5 of the 10 Vic clubs.

It also keeps at least a hint of geographical tribalism in place. Something that's completely lost with one big 'precinct'.

Still very easy for Dogs supporters from the other end of town to get to. As you say Webby train to Southern Cross then change over to the Watergardens etc line and get off at the next stop pretty much.

[azabob]

Re: Etihad Stadium - New Initiatives

Whats/ where E-gate?

[Eastdog]

Re: Etihad Stadium - New Initiatives

Whats/ where E-gate?

This might help azabob.

http://www.majorprojects.vic.gov.au/project/e-gate/

E-Gate is a world class 20 hectare development opportunity on the edge of Melbourne’s CBD. An Expression of Interest to develop this unique site was released on Monday 27 October 2014.

The opportunity

E-Gate is a world class 20 hectare development opportunity on the edge of Melbourne’s CBD.

E-Gate will be a mixed use, inner city precinct combining residential, retail, commercial, and community uses.

Development of E-Gate will capitalise on the site’s close proximity to North Melbourne Railway Station, CityLink, tram and bus lines and the Capital City Trail. A new bridge connecting E-Gate with North Melbourne Station and West Melbourne will provide primary access to the Metropolitan rail network.

This is your opportunity to deliver a fantastic 21st century extension to Melbourne’s central city and capitalise on the strong demand for inner-city living.

Read More

http://www.westernconnection.org.au/egate1/

E-Gate

Directly between the suburbs of Docklands and West Melbourne is a rail freight yard that is used by both Metro and Bluescope Steel. The yard is bounded by Footscray Road, CityLink, the Metro train line into North Melbourne Station and Dudley Street. Access to the railyard is through "E" gate on Footscray Rd.

In recent times the State Government and Major Projects Victoria have been working on the business case for the sale of this 22-hectare site. Current proposals on the Major Projects Victoria website suggest "E-Gate" could eventually be home to 10,000 residents and 50,000-square-metres of commercial and retail space.

Western Connection welcomes the development of this land... most residents in West Melbourne and Docklands will not miss the noise of trains shunting and cranes beeping late into the night.

How E-Gate is developed is the important question. Will E-Gate simply become another insular collection of high-rise apartment and office spaces, built for maximum investor return with minimal consideration for the longterm welfare of the resulting community? If so, then chances are E-Gate will simply become another Docklands... a lonely, soulless canyon on the city's fringe.

The problem we see with the current plans is a lack of integration between E-Gate and the surrounding communities. Like Docklands, E-Gate could become another island, bordered by trains to the north and Footscray Road to the south.

Early plans for E-Gate also suggest that parkland is planned for the west (CityLink) end of the site. This parkland is to be built on the edge of the Moonee Ponds creek so that it can be part of a local flood plain. Again, this does little to address the need for parkland that is central and easy to access for most residents living along the West of Melbourne's CBD.

[Bornadog]

Re: Etihad Stadium - New Initiatives

Nothing wrong with Etihad at all. Just upgrade it in a few years time and give the tenants a better deal and run the stadium properly.

[Cyberdoggie]

Re: Etihad Stadium - New Initiatives

Any meat in those pies.

Meat, technically yes, beef, no.

[Cyberdoggie]

Re: Etihad Stadium - New Initiatives

Nothing wrong with Etihad at all. Just upgrade it in a few years time and give the tenants a better deal and run the stadium properly.

And let people get access to decent seats and stop selling off reserved seats to opposition clubs.

[Webby]

Re: Etihad Stadium - New Initiatives

Whats/ where E-gate?

"Egate" is a piss poor name given to the "nothing" space directly south of NM station. It's ripe for development, would add to Melbourne's repertoire as the best city in the world (if done properly) and would benefit the western side of the city... Albeit at the inconvenience of the odd entitled Toorak dill. (Eddie, you used to be cool.... About 35 years ago when you were a true Broadmeadows boy, catching the train to work through NM station.)

Life's about progress, not about lining the pockets of the Melbourne boys' club.

IF Etihad is demolished and cashed in for the land value, a new stadium HAS to be on the north/west side of town. You know it makes sense!

[Eastdog]

Re: Etihad Stadium - New Initiatives

"Egate" is a piss poor name given to the "nothing" space directly south of NM station. It's ripe for development, would add to Melbourne's repertoire as the best city in the world (if done properly) and would benefit the western side of the city... Albeit at the inconvenience of the odd entitled Toorak dill. (Eddie, you used to be cool.... About 35 years ago when you were a true Broadmeadows boy, catching the train to work through NM station.)

Life's about progress, not about lining the pockets of the Melbourne boys' club.

IF Etihad is demolished and cashed in for the land value, a new stadium HAS to be on the north/west side of town. You know it makes sense!

Eddie has become more Toorakised and the Broadmedowiness isn't in him that much

[hujsh]

Re: Etihad Stadium - New Initiatives

Meat, technically yes, beef, no.

[hujsh]

Re: Etihad Stadium - New Initiatives

Meat, technically yes, beef, no.

[Twodogs]

Re: Etihad Stadium - New Initiatives

There's even less meat in a Etihad stadium pie.

[Twodogs]

Re: Etihad Stadium - New Initiatives

"Egate" is a piss poor name given to the "nothing" space directly south of NM station. It's ripe for development, would add to Melbourne's repertoire as the best city in the world (if done properly) and would benefit the western side of the city... Albeit at the inconvenience of the odd entitled Toorak dill. (Eddie, you used to be cool.... About 35 years ago when you were a true Broadmeadows boy, catching the train to work through NM station.)

Life's about progress, not about lining the pockets of the Melbourne boys' club.

IF Etihad is demolished and cashed in for the land value, a new stadium HAS to be on the north/west side of town. You know it makes sense!

Egate doesn't exist on google maps so it might not be the official name.* What was there before?
What would be a better name?


*found it. Egate reactive. Whatever a reactive is.

[Webby]

Re: Etihad Stadium - New Initiatives

Egate doesn't exist on google maps so it might not be the official name. What was there before?


What would be a better name?

1. Just google map north Melbourne station and look directly SW of it.

2. A better name for "Egate" is East Footscray, imo.... Or perhaps "Western Melbourne.."

[Eastdog]

Re: Etihad Stadium - New Initiatives

1. Just google map north Melbourne station and look directly SW of it.

2. A better name for "Egate" is East Footscray, imo.... Or perhaps "Western Melbourne.."

That would be a cool name for the area.