Following our exes...................

[GVGjr]

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I need to find the article but did anyone see the struggles Jamison Daniels went through after his time with us?
Sad to read.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

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I need to find the article but did anyone see the struggles Jamison Daniels went through after his time with us?
Sad to read.

Yes I read the article. It really highlights the different experience for those who are on the fringes of an AFL career. It must be a constant state of stress, not knowing if you're going to get a contract, struggling on a very small income as a rookie, with the threat of it all ending just always hanging over your shoulder.
That's not to dismiss that being a highly touted player also comes with its own set of pressures. It just shows that there is no one homogeneous AFL experience.

[soupman]

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Yes I read the article. It really highlights the different experience for those who are on the fringes of an AFL career. It must be a constant state of stress, not knowing if you're going to get a contract, struggling on a very small income as a rookie, with the threat of it all ending just always hanging over your shoulder.
That's not to dismiss that being a highly touted player also comes with its own set of pressures. It just shows that there is no one homogeneous AFL experience.

Only somewhat tangentially related but in the Danny Boyd podcast Tom has on multiple ocassions talked about how with the players union there should be a wider representation at the top. For example Dangerfield is the players rep there, but Boyd's point is that Dangerfields AFL experience is vastly different to the 70% of the players who are on less than $300k, and that without someone who shares their experience it is hard for their voice to be heard.

[Bornadog]

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Only somewhat tangentially related but in the Danny Boyd podcast Tom has on multiple ocassions talked about how with the players union there should be a wider representation at the top. For example Dangerfield is the players rep there, but Boyd's point is that Dangerfields AFL experience is vastly different to the 70$ of the players who are on less than $300k, and that without someone who shares their experience it is hard for their voice to be heard.

That is a very good point. I wonder if Tom has tried to push that along a bit with the Association?

[FrediKanoute]

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I need to find the article but did anyone see the struggles Jamison Daniels went through after his time with us?
Sad to read.

That was a tough read. Its tough being made redundant when you are in your 40's and 50's but have had the chance to build a career.

[EasternWest]

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Yes I read the article. It really highlights the different experience for those who are on the fringes of an AFL career. It must be a constant state of stress, not knowing if you're going to get a contract, struggling on a very small income as a rookie, with the threat of it all ending just always hanging over your shoulder.

Interestingly enough, I was speaking to a relatively recently delisted rookie. I was asking him if the dream is over and he was really pragmatic, saying he's been training and preparing basically full time since he was 15. He decided it wasn't worth killing himself (metaphorically speaking) for a maybe maybe not proposition and was actually content now that it's over and he can actually turn his focus to what's next without the spectre of footy hanging over him.

I guess it's an individual viewpoint.

[jeemak]

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That was a tough read. Its tough being made redundant when you are in your 40's and 50's but have had the chance to build a career.

It scares the shit out of me that now in my early forties I'm on the precipice (if not over it) of being considered too old to be hired for a lot of jobs I'd be very well suited to. Considering politicians want to lift retirement age to 97 or something there's a long way to go on the journey!

Good insights from Daniels, though I can't believe it's been 14 years since he was drafted.........where does the time go?

[Mofra]

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Interestingly enough, I was speaking to a relatively recently delisted rookie. I was asking him if the dream is over and he was really pragmatic, saying he's been training and preparing basically full time since he was 15. He decided it wasn't worth killing himself (metaphorically speaking) for a maybe maybe not proposition and was actually content now that it's over and he can actually turn his focus to what's next without the spectre of footy hanging over him.

I guess it's an individual viewpoint.

A lot of footballers have to go back to suburban leagues to learn to love the game again.
Everythign you do on a field is scrutinised to the nth degree, perhaps unfairly.

[Twodogs]

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It scares the shit out of me that now in my early forties I'm on the precipice (if not over it) of being considered too old to be hired for a lot of jobs I'd be very well suited to. Considering politicians want to lift retirement age to 97 or something there's a long way to go on the journey!

Good insights from Daniels, though I can't believe it's been 14 years since he was drafted.........where does the time go?

Having worked in the employment provision field I can tell you that statistics show that most of us retrain and change the industry we work in a minimum of three times over our working life. It usually starts with a big change at around the age of 30 or after 10-12 years of working in the first job/field we start out in.


So don't worry. You won't be the first or last to person to find yourself staring into the abyss of a career change. In fact you'd be abnormal if you don't do it.

[GVGjr]

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It scares the shit out of me that now in my early forties I'm on the precipice (if not over it) of being considered too old to be hired for a lot of jobs I'd be very well suited to. Considering politicians want to lift retirement age to 97 or something there's a long way to go on the journey!

Good insights from Daniels, though I can't believe it's been 14 years since he was drafted.........where does the time go?

It all depends on the work but I've recently been part of the recruitment process for a couple of candidates around the 50yo range and they were successful in their applications.
Their age just wasn't a consideration and I'll be honest it's always around the effort and ethic that candidates display in their interviews and how they perform in the roles more than any preconceived ideas about age.
Having said that after 21 years at one company I made a move to another in my mid forties because I didn't want to be mid 50's and start looking around again. It ended up being a very positive move and experience.

Staying relevant with your skill level and embracing technology Ponyboy are the most important attributes for many people.

[jeemak]

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It all depends on the work but I've recently been part of the recruitment process for a couple of candidates around the 50yo range and they were successful in their applications.
Their age just wasn't a consideration and I'll be honest it's always around the effort and ethic that candidates display in their interviews and how they perform in the roles more than any preconceived ideas about age.
Having said that after 21 years at one company I made a move to another in my mid forties because I didn't want to be mid 50's and start looking around again. It ended up being a very positive move and experience.

Staying relevant with your skill level and embracing technology Ponyboy are the most important attributes for many people.

There's new nickname that I didn't see coming...........!

I agree that keeping up with technology and always developing your skills is important.

[GVGjr]

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There's new nickname that I didn't see coming...........!

I agree that keeping up with technology and always developing your skills is important.

I couldn't be bothered saying "Stay Gold"

So many people let their skill level decline late in their professional careers because it's working now and they will worry about tomorrow somewhere down the track.
The problem is things change quickly when new systems and processes are implemented and the goal post changes.
I've seen it catch so many people over the years and their strength in one system becomes their downfall in another because they can't or won't adapt.
As BAD can confirm, I used to have to deliver training and then support in a new system that was being implemented. The ones that fought it or didn't embrace the new way more than often didn't survive.

[Bornadog]

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As BAD can confirm, I used to have to deliver training and then support in a new system that was being implemented. The ones that fought it or didn't embrace the new way more than often didn't survive.

That couple of years I spent on that project led me to a career change. After working in Asia for 7 years as a Finance Director, I came back to Australia to find it difficult to get the job I wanted. Every job I applied for I got the comments that I had been out of Australia for too long, even though I had vast experience in a number of Asian countries. Australia is a very conservative country and I sought of agree that when you start to get towards your 50s, you have to really work hard to get the role you want.

[Grantysghost]

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I couldn't be bothered saying "Stay Gold"

So many people let their skill level decline late in their professional careers because it's working now and they will worry about tomorrow somewhere down the track.
The problem is things change quickly when new systems and processes are implemented and the goal post changes.
I've seen it catch so many people over the years and their strength in one system becomes their downfall in another because they can't or won't adapt.
As BAD can confirm, I used to have to deliver training and then support in a new system that was being implemented. The ones that fought it or didn't embrace the new way more than often didn't survive.

Roll with it or it rolls over you. I say it to all of our junior guys.
Embrace the change, soon enough it will become a full revolution (in the circular sense).

[GVGjr]

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That couple of years I spent on that project led me to a career change. After working in Asia for 7 years as a Finance Director, I came back to Australia to find it difficult to get the job I wanted. Every job I applied for I got the comments that I had been out of Australia for too long, even though I had vast experience in a number of Asian countries. Australia is a very conservative country and I sought of agree that when you start to get towards your 50s, you have to really work hard to get the role you want.

I'd like think that has changed now but it would have been very relevant at the time.
It all depends on what you do but if you are standing still you are going backwards in most professional work environments and it's on most of us to keep up and enhancing our skill levels.