Judd is gone.

[Happy Days]

Re: Judd is gone.

But it's ok for you to comment on culture and drug issues, but not Caroline Wilson?

I think GD's talking about being out of the media limelight; if anything, he's complimenting Caro!

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Judd is gone.

But it's ok for you to comment on culture and drug issues, but not Caroline Wilson?

Sorry Azabob, clarification needed.
Caroline takes clubs to task for lots of things, and love her or hate her, she is the writer of 'bad boys behavior' in AFL.
That the Victorian clubs seem to get more attention in the Victorian press, is my rather obvious point, poorly made.

To her credit, she brought up the issue of Ben Cousins and his deterioration in 2015, but tied it in to AFL culture and drugs in general.
When the Cox biography came out, I would have thought more journos would say something but she was about the only one.

[jeemak]

Re: Judd is gone.

Interesting to watch the footage of the Eagles premiership, and Ben cousins on the stage, looking high as a kite.
Eagles culture has been one of the most toxic in the AFL. Cousins, Kerr, Mainwearing, did I forget anyone else?
It's a pity Judd couldn't have had his early career with a Vic club.

If you think anyone could have played in a game like that high as a kite you're kidding yourself.

Plus, if Melbourne was the fishbowl Perth is I'm pretty sure there would be a fair few more skeletons bursting from closets in a similar vein in Melbourne as they did over in the West during 2004-2008.

After the Liberatore incident I'd have thought our club's supporters might have taken a dose of humility.

[Remi Moses]

Re: Judd is gone.

Look forward to juddy driving the Visy truck .

[jeemak]

Re: Judd is gone.

Look forward to juddy driving the Visy truck .

Juddy finally living his cruisy dream driving pulp and waste trucks around the suburbs.

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Judd is gone.

If you think anyone could have played in a game like that high as a kite you're kidding yourself.

Plus, if Melbourne was the fishbowl Perth is I'm pretty sure there would be a fair few more skeletons bursting from closets in a similar vein in Melbourne as they did over in the West during 2004-2008.

After the Liberatore incident I'd have thought our club's supporters might have taken a dose of humility.

Maybe not. But there are ways of getting your body to a certain level of performance before a game right? And still be glowing on the day. I'm not sure any of us are confident he would have passed a drug test on the day. Obviously the rules have changed and congrats to the AFL for getting on to it.

One wonders if Judd will ever come out and comment about it. He would write a pretty good Bio.

[KT31]

Re: Judd is gone.

One disadvantage of being an interstate team, you have guys like Pavlich who seem to miss out on a lot of kudos.
One advantage, you are that much further away from Caroline Wilson.

I know what you mean Pav is one of my all time favorite non-bulldog players and really doesn't get the accolades he would if he played in Victoria.

[jeemak]

Re: Judd is gone.

Maybe not. But there are ways of getting your body to a certain level of performance before a game right? And still be glowing on the day. I'm not sure any of us are confident he would have passed a drug test on the day. Obviously the rules have changed and congrats to the AFL for getting on to it.

One wonders if Judd will ever come out and comment about it. He would write a pretty good Bio.

The drugs policy was installed in 2005, and I have very little doubt that WCE players would have been target tested after the 2006 GF. If Cousins was jacked up on the day, or in the days leading up to the big dance I'd be very surprised.

One wonders whether Judd was in on it as well.

[Remi Moses]

Re: Judd is gone.

Don't want to be accused of shooting Bambi, but what was Judd saying/ doing as captain during West Coasts party days?
Great player, but they're questions that I'm looking forward to him answering

[azabob]

Re: Judd is gone.

Don't want to be accused of shooting Bambi, but what was Judd saying/ doing as captain during West Coasts party days?
Great player, but they're questions that I'm looking forward to him answering

From what I can gather Remi, no matter what anyone said, no-one could influence that. Hence why he left!

[1eyedog]

Re: Judd is gone.

From what I can gather Remi, no matter what anyone said, no-one could influence that. Hence why he left!

I'm not sure why he left but you're spot on. Very difficult to have any influence in that kind of situation. It just becomes a lifestyle choice.

[Remi Moses]

Re: Judd is gone.

Maybe informing Worsfold or the board should have been done.
Found a place on the committee for their next coach !
I can't believe Edelstein's not on it