AFL footballers and their party drugs shame exposed

[Twodogs]

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You're right Sedat, it's written by Jon Anderson. I thought he was banished from the H/S over the drivinghiscarintotgepizzashop fiasco but obviously this piece had to be printed.

Because if I want the facts about what's happening in the Melbourne club and drug scene then I'm going to ask a 56 year old guy for an eye witness account.

[Rocco Jones]

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Author of the article has a lot of hide, seeing as he smashed his car into a pizza shop and blew 0.15 a few years ago. I guess dirty mug scribes don't have to live up to the same standards as footballers.

Bit of an old school mentality. Why do the kids have to take the drugs, why can't they just (binge) drink like a real man?!!

[LostDoggy]

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If they think getting the education into the young blokes in the T.A.C will do the trick they will scratch their heads when that doesn't work. They are well into it by then, I know of an under 14 side that has a problem. It's spread through the schools like you wouldn't believe, if young blokes are going to take it they will before they get to the A.F.L. If it's not stopped at home then there is nothing anybody can do.

[Bornadog]

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If they think getting the education into the young blokes in the T.A.C will do the trick they will scratch their heads when that doesn't work. They are well into it by then, I know of an under 14 side that has a problem. It's spread through the schools like you wouldn't believe, if young blokes are going to take it they will before they get to the A.F.L. If it's not stopped at home then there is nothing anybody can do.

So lets give up and do nothing, or is there a solution?

[Mofra]

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Do they get checked for drug taking BAS in the armed forces?

I was urine tested every 6 months - nobody was ever caught, even the guys who used to indulge.

[Mofra]

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My daughter knows how much I am against illegal drugs. The other day she said, look its like this. You want to go out, you are young and don't have much money, but want to get high or drunk. At night clubs alcohol costs alot per drink whereas one pill can do the trick for a fraction of what you need to spend.

It's not just that either - the hangover vs 'maybe" comedown is a big issue too. You want to be passed out vomiting at 3am or still dancing and laughing your arse off? I know plenty of people who choose MDMA for this very reason - most quite successful people with high paying jobs and a reasonable degree of social status.

Times have changed - party drugs aren't just tolerated, they're now seen by the current generation as an acceptable alternative to alcohol abuse and for a footballer who has skinfolds to meet the temptation is huge.

[Greystache]

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Author of the article has a lot of hide, seeing as he smashed his car into a pizza shop and blew 0.15 a few years ago. I guess dirty mug scribes don't have to live up to the same standards as footballers.

Not to mention Rebecca Wilson, that authority on moral responsibility, who is also a serial convicted high range drink driver.

[Drunken Bum]

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So lets give up and do nothing, or is there a solution?

Regulate it and pump money into REAL education not bullshit scare tactics and propaganda, it's easier for kids to get drugs than it is alcohol, the vast majority of societies problems with drugs are a direct result of prohibition

[jeemak]

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So lets give up and do nothing, or is there a solution?

I think what Rooner is suggesting is a huge part of the education and values instilment process should occur in the home at a young age. Leaving it up to sporting support networks to provide education to those in early to mid-teenage years is a recipe for limited success.

Parents seem to leave a lot of difficult conversations with kids to third parties. Perhaps we should start educating parents on drug facts and how to engage their children on the topic in a responsible and non-fear motivated way.

If you change the culture of society you'll change culture within the AFL.

[Twodogs]

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I was urine tested every 6 months - nobody was ever caught, even the guys who used to indulge.

A couple of years ago I had a rotten cold and I was as sick as. Anyway I had a doctors appointment, so I took some Codral cold tablets so I could make it. I get to the doctors office and as part of the check up I had to do a urine test. Came back positive for opiates and I had to go in for weekly appointments and tests for 3 months. All because of the codeine in the cold tablet.

[Drunken Bum]

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Regulate it and pump money into REAL education not bullshit scare tactics and propaganda, it's easier for kids to get drugs than it is alcohol, the vast majority of societies problems with drugs are a direct result of prohibition

This is obviously a broader solution to the problem at hand that society needs to take on, from an AFL aspect i'm not sure there is much more that can be done, whatever it is i can promise you one thing, it will not work as far as stopping players taking drugs goes and anyone who thinks otherwise is deluded. I believe the AFL was on the right track treating it as a health issue and not naming and shaming players but i suspect for the wrong reasons, more because they wanted to protect the brand and sweep it under the carpet, getting fair dinkum about treating it as a health issue would be a good start, here's a revolutionary idea, how about try talking to the players about it instead of telling them what to do and what not to do find out why they are and if they're are underlying social reasons for it or if it's just because of the physical benefits over alcohol, try treating them as humans instead of bloody robots

[LostDoggy]

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I think what Rooner is suggesting is a huge part of the education and values instilment process should occur in the home at a young age. Leaving it up to sporting support networks to provide education to those in early to mid-teenage years is a recipe for limited success.

Parents seem to leave a lot of difficult conversations with kids to third parties. Perhaps we should start educating parents on drug facts and how to engage their children on the topic in a responsible and non-fear motivated way.

If you change the culture of society you'll change culture within the AFL.

You took the words right out of my mouth. Never give up, but it has to be confronted at home much earlier than some parents can handle.

[comrade]

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I have a 2 year old and I'm already s***ting myself about him getting into drugs. Ice especially.

We'll be having the chat very early on.

Only problem is, I use playing for the Bulldogs as an incentive for everything.

Bulldogs players eat their breakfast. Bulldogs players put their toys away. Bulldogs players don't pinch the cat.

Not sure I can honestly say that Bulldogs players don't do drugs

[bulldogtragic]

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A couple of years ago I had a rotten cold and I was as sick as. Anyway I had a doctors appointment, so I took some Codral cold tablets so I could make it. I get to the doctors office and as part of the check up I had to do a urine test. Came back positive for opiates and I had to go in for weekly appointments and tests for 3 months. All because of the codeine in the cold tablet.

I was considered for an overseas trip to Kenya with my boss Mr Peterman, but like you I tested positive to poppy seeds from my muffin. I switched urine samples but it didn't work and I didn't get to go.

[Remi Moses]

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Author of the article has a lot of hide, seeing as he smashed his car into a pizza shop and blew 0.15 a few years ago. I guess dirty mug scribes don't have to live up to the same standards as footballers.

Fair go sedat Jon thought it was a drive through pizza joint .
Bit like Ricky Nixon trying to catch a tram while still in his car!!