Mike Sheahan's best teams of the past five decades

[Doc26]

Re: Mike Sheahan's best teams of the past five decades

It's a fair contest Rehn vs Wynd but I think Mike got this one right. Both super players but Rehn was hugely influential in their premiership run. I also think Rehn got on top of Wynd in the 2nd half of the preliminary final of 97 and helped steer the game away from us, unfortunately.

He did indeed influence key moments for them in their 97 and 98 finals. A very fine ruckman.

[Bornadog]

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He did indeed influence key moments for them in their 97 and 98 finals. A very fine ruckman.

Even so, I agree with you, Wynd was better and more consistent over a longer period of time.

[Axe Man]

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Jim Stynes is another with claims for the 1990s ruckman spot and Paul Salmon made it on the bench with the ability to play forward that the other 3 didn't have. I don't think there is any clear standout for the position, you could make an argument for all of them.

[Doc26]

Re: Mike Sheahan's best teams of the past five decades

Jim Stynes is another with claims for the 1990s ruckman spot and Paul Salmon made it on the bench with the ability to play forward that the other 3 didn't have. I don't think there is any clear standout for the position, you could make an argument for all of them.

Yes and as a Bulldog supporter who was there through all the highs and lows of the 90s and had the pleasure to watch Scotty give us his everything in everyone of his Melbourne based games I'm more than happy to fly the flag and argue his case above others.

If we don't do it, rest assured it won't be coming from our opposition or the blinkered (non Bulldog) media scribes who struggle to recognise our existence.

[Bornadog]

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Yes and as a Bulldog supporter who was there through all the highs and lows of the 90s and had the pleasure to watch Scotty give us his everything in everyone of his Melbourne based games I'm more than happy to fly the flag and argue his case above others.

If we don't do it, rest assured it won't be coming from our opposition or the blinkered (non Bulldog) media scribes who struggle to recognise our existence.

He was the last ruckman to get a Brownlow medal as well.

[LostDoggy]

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I think from a Bulldogs perspective, Mike got it right.

I would definitely have Chris Grant as 90s CHB ahead of Jakovich (much more complete player), but he's in the 22 so fair enough. Very pleased John Schulz got a 60s Guernsey, many non-Bulldog would've overlooked him.

No-one is gonna completely agree but for mine the 2 glaring omissions are:

- (90s) Glen Archer (voted shineboner of the century at his own club). I would have him ahead of either Hart or McKenna, who were good defenders but lacked Archer's physicality. Amazingly Sheahan has Pagan/Carey as Cap/Coach of the decade but no other Roos at all despite their 8 prelim/GF decade.

- (00s) Adam Goodes; 2 Brownlows in variety of roles makes him a must. His achievements next to Luke Hodge's prior to 2010 make it a no brainer, particularly when you consider that this team (unlike all the others) has no 2nd ruckman and Goodes won a Brownlow in that position.

I would also have Jim Stynes as the 90s ruckman ahead of either Rehn or Salmon for his achievements and his revolutionising of the role. Far more influential in my opinion.

[Twodogs]

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Agree with Archer and two Brownlows and Premierships make it hard to argue Goodes's inclusion.

[Bulldog4life]

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In the 1960's team a good argument could be for the inclusion of John Jillard on the half back flank instead of Dennis Marshall who played with Geelong for only 5 years and played only 85 games

Our doggies half back John played 189 games from 1958 to 1970 Both players won their Club's Best & Fairest awards
John Jillard was named in Footscray team of the century Marshall was not named in Geelon's team of the century not even as an emergency
They were equally as good as each other but for longevity I think Jillard should be in well ahead of Marshall

[jeemak]

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PP - I actually think that if Chris Grant was able to play the majority of his career settled at CHB we'd have had the best CHB of all time on our hands, and a much quicker transition towards the game springing attack from defence like we see now than what we did. He was that good in that position it wasn't funny.

Alas, he dominated every position he played and now doesn't feature in Sheehan's best players of the decades. What a harsh result.

[Twodogs]

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Probably fair enough that little Gazza makes the team though...even if it wasn't until 2007 that he was exceptional. If any player is all of MVP 3 times, wins a brownlow, 3 x All Australian, 2 x premiership and 2 x B&F within that decade - its probably fair enough they get in the side!!

Mike's teams and lists are never short of stimulating discussion, which is good.

No Coleman medals or century goal kicking though. I reckon Templeton gets overlooked a lot and it's up to us to point him out.

And strictly speaking-the decade being between 71-80-KT got his two Colemans, century goalkicking, AAs, Brownlow, B+Fs in the one decade.

He's been stiffed.