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  • Remi Moses
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 14785

    #61
    Re: Hird Gone!

    Of course don't forget he is suing his clubs insurer!
    Classy....
    The guy took responsibility from the beginning , then ran a million miles an hour

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    • LostDoggy
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 8307

      #62
      Re: Hird Gone!

      Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
      Sad day in football..

      ..For the neutrals. First 'right' decision Essendank have made in years. Damnit.
      They made the right call but totally ballsed it up. Again. Paying him out, not disclosing that payout to their fans and Little not joining him on the dole queue. “I want to give the next guy clean air.” What a grub. If he was our president I reckon I'd sock him one.

      It would only take an Essendon supporting business person with an IQ of at least 40 to run a successful challenge at the next AGM. Reckon the board is safe.

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      • Go_Dogs
        Hall of Fame
        • Jan 2007
        • 10114

        #63
        Re: Hird Gone!

        Given the seemingly vexatious nature of the man being shown the door, the best play Essendon had was offering a significant amount of money leading to an agreement that a resignation be tendered.

        It had to happen after the football they played on the weekend (and over the course of the season, largely) and the comments certain Crows players made about the on-field harmony wouldn't have hurt the #sackhird cause.

        It will now be interesting to see how the search for coaches goes in the off-season, with 3 clubs in the mix - 2 big Melbourne clubs who are both some way off success and the Crows, who are a bit closer but have their own issues and off-season concerns (Dangerfield).
        Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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        • bulldogtragic
          The List Manager
          • Jan 2007
          • 34316

          #64
          Re: Hird Gone!

          Originally posted by Go_Dogs
          Given the seemingly vexatious nature of the man being shown the door, the best play Essendon had was offering a significant amount of money leading to an agreement that a resignation be tendered.

          It had to happen after the football they played on the weekend (and over the course of the season, largely) and the comments certain Crows players made about the on-field harmony wouldn't have hurt the #sackhird cause.

          It will now be interesting to see how the search for coaches goes in the off-season, with 3 clubs in the mix - 2 big Melbourne clubs who are both some way off success and the Crows, who are a bit closer but have their own issues and off-season concerns (Dangerfield).
          Are you writing Hird off getting the Carlton or Adelaide jobs?
          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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          • Greystache
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Dec 2009
            • 9775

            #65
            Re: Hird Gone!

            There's still some support for Jimmy out there.



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            • Dancin' Douggy
              WOOF Member
              • Oct 2007
              • 2877

              #66
              Re: Hird Gone!

              Some MORON Essendon supporter in the age today said Hird would go down in history as a 'Mandela' like figure. Wow. That is breathtakingly stupid.

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              • SlimPickens
                Coaching Staff
                • Aug 2010
                • 2929

                #67
                Re: Hird Gone!

                Originally posted by Dancin' Douggy
                Some MORON Essendon supporter in the age today said Hird would go down in history as a 'Mandela' like figure. Wow. That is breathtakingly stupid.
                I took that as tongue in cheek. At least I hope it wasn't serious.
                "Loves a scrap....oh yeah & he's a pretty handy footballer as well"

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                • Dancin' Douggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 2877

                  #68
                  Re: Hird Gone!

                  Originally posted by SlimPickens
                  I took that as tongue in cheek. At least I hope it wasn't serious.
                  You might be right.............but then again............ this is Essendon we're talking about

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                  • Bulldog Joe
                    Premiership Moderator
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 5509

                    #69
                    Re: Hird Gone!

                    I am sure he has acted like some famous African leaders

                    perhaps Robert Mugabe is closer then Mandela.
                    Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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                    • Sedat
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 11139

                      #70
                      Re: Hird Gone!

                      Originally posted by SlimPickens
                      I took that as tongue in cheek. At least I hope it wasn't serious.
                      Nope, the kool-aiders are as stupid a bunch of supporters as there is in the competition. The fact that so many still want to #standbyhird, even after he has almost single-handedly destroyed their club, shows the extent of their unhealthy hero-worship.

                      As an analogy, let's change Essendon to Collingwood and Hird to Buckley, who is as revered at Collingwood as Hird is at Essendon. If Buckley was the senior coach overseeing such a dangerous and potentially illegal performance-enhancing drug regime, Collingwood would have booted his arse out the door in about 10 seconds flat. Essendon by contrast are a truly weak club who have shown themselves to be sycophantic hero-worshippers and cultists.

                      The AFL just signed on a $2.5bn TV rights deal - does anyone in their right mind think that they would try and destroy one of the biggest and most supported clubs and jeopardise this massively lucrative deal? The opposite happened, they tipped the Bombers off and then did everything in their power to protect Essendon and bury the story with a bunch of secret deals. And yet we are to believe Hird, Robbo and all the cultists out there that the big bad AFL was out to get them. Stupid people will believe anything.
                      "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                      • Twodogs
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 27654

                        #71
                        Re: Hird Gone!

                        Originally posted by Dancin' Douggy
                        Some MORON Essendon supporter in the age today said Hird would go down in history as a 'Mandela' like figure. Wow. That is breathtakingly stupid.

                        Winnie Mandela, maybe.
                        They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                        • Sedat
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 11139

                          #72
                          Re: Hird Gone!



                          This article probably deserves its own thread on the AFL talk board, as it encapsulates so much that is wrong with the AFL today - the boys club mentality, the absolving of responsibility, the fanboi culture of the media at the expense of objectivity and fact-based reporting, the poor and mixed message sent to the community by head office.

                          Well done to the author - terrific read.
                          "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                          • The bulldog tragician
                            Senior Player
                            • Apr 2013
                            • 1972

                            #73
                            Re: Hird Gone!

                            This really is a terrific though sobering read, thanks Sedat.
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                            • Greystache
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 9775

                              #74
                              Re: Hird Gone!

                              Articles like those are utterly ridiculous, just more attention grabbing by slandering what's cool to slander at the time. The Goodes situation was another, you don't need to know anything about the subject, just be the most extreme in your condemnation and you'll garner support. The St Kilda "school" girl before that was the same. Credibility is irrelevant as long as you're telling people what they hope to hear. There's no more insight into the subject than what has been gathered from other news articles previously written.

                              The constant suggestion parents are pushing their kids into soccer because it's somehow the "clean" option just goes to show how little these people know about the subject they're commenting on. Soccer has made an art form of covering up scandals, the AFL could only hope to aspire to get to their level some day.
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                              • Sedat
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 11139

                                #75
                                Re: Hird Gone!

                                Originally posted by Greystache
                                Articles like those are utterly ridiculous, just more attention grabbing by slandering what's cool to slander at the time. The Goodes situation was another, you don't need to know anything about the subject, just be the most extreme in your condemnation and you'll garner support. The St Kilda "school" girl before that was the same. Credibility is irrelevant as long as you're telling people what they hope to hear. There's no more insight into the subject than what has been gathered from other news articles previously written.

                                The constant suggestion parents are pushing their kids into soccer because it's somehow the "clean" option just goes to show how little these people know about the subject they're commenting on. Soccer has made an art form of covering up scandals, the AFL could only hope to aspire to get to their level some day.
                                Oh I agree with your assertion that FIFA/soccer are not beacons of virtue to aspire to, and I also agree with the bolded part about hysteria and extreme views being used as the default modus operandi by shrill commentators to garner extreme responses. But I don't think the author is being hysterical or shrill at all, nor do I think she is slandering the direction of the game because it is de rigueur to do so. I share her views that the AFL hierarchy (and the AFL industry in general) has completely lost its way for a number of years now, and that the Hird/EFC situation perfectly encapsulates everything wrong with the game right now - it is a boys club, there is no responsibility taken by people in positions of power and influence, there has been a propensity to protect the brand/image of the sport at the expense of its very credibility (PED's, illicit drugs code, tanking, salary cap cheating), there is a fanboi narrative and culture that has insidiously pervaded the media (primarily because far too many hack ex. footballers now clog up the airwaves and column inches), and there have been inconsistent and mixed message sent to the community by the custodians of the game when decisive leadership was required.

                                Taking the throwaway "I want my kids to play soccer instead" line out of the equation, I think the article hits the mark in a measured and articulate way.
                                "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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