How did the Hawks and Eagles build their Grand Final lists?

[Bornadog]

SNAPSHOT: HOW THE HAWTHORN AND WEST COAST LISTS COMPARE

National draft - First round	Picks No.1, 2, 7, 14, 16, 19	Picks No.2, 3, 4, 7, 11, 13, 18 (priority pick)
National draft - Second round	Picks No.24, 33, 34	Picks No.20, 22, 26 (priority pick), 29 (twice)
National draft - third round	Picks No.36, 46, 55	Picks No.37, 50, 60
National draft - fourth round	Picks No.66, 69	Nil
Rookie draft	Picks No. 22, 47, 85 (NSW rookie selection)	Picks No.12, 31, 44 + No.6 (pre-season draft)
Trade/free agency	Josh Gibson, Brian Lake, Shaun Burgoyne, James Frawley, Ben McEvoy, David Hale, Jack Gunston	Josh Kennedy, Xavier Ellis, Sharrod Wellingham, Jamie Cripps, Elliot Yeo, Josh Hill

Link here for break down of players.

How do we compare???

[bulldogtragic]

Re: How did the Hawks and Eagles build their Grand Final lists?

Firsts: Grant, Bob, Mitch, Bonts, Stringer, A. Cordy, Macrae, Hrovat, Smith,
Second: Webb, McLean, Roughead, Liberatore, Minson
Third: Hamilton, Daniel, Talia, Dale, Dickson, Fuller, Wood, Hunter, Prudden
Fourth: Z. Cordy, Honeychurch
Rookie: Boyd, Dahl, Morris, Redpath, Picken, Jong, Campbell, JJ
PSD: Roberts
Trade: Crameri, Tom Boyd, Hamling (FA), Biggs, Stevens, Darley

* Give or take.

[Twodogs]

Re: How did the Hawks and Eagles build their Grand Final lists?

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Firsts: Grant, Bob, Mitch, Bonts, Stringer, A. Cordy, Macrae, Hrovat, Smith,
Second: Webb, McLean, Roughead, Liberatore, Minson
Third: Hamilton, Daniel, Talia, Dale, Dickson, Fuller, Wood, Hunter, Prudden
Fourth: Z. Cordy, Honeychurch
Rookie: Boyd, Dahl, Morris, Redpath, Picken, Jong, Campbell, JJ
PSD: Roberts
Trade: Crameri, Tom Boyd, Hamling (FA), Biggs, Stevens, Darley

* Give or take.

How good has the Rookie List been to us? 5 guns, a promising ruckman, a midfielder who can break the lines at his best and a ful forward who is keeping Tom Boyd out of the team.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: How did the Hawks and Eagles build their Grand Final lists?

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How good has the Rookie List been to us? 5 guns, a promising ruckman, a midfielder who can break the lines at his best and a ful forward who is keeping Tom Boyd out of the team.

Will be well over 1,000 games from that group. That's a massive return in anyone's language. I would've liked another 300 out of Howard, Grant and Ayce though. And Smith to have good knees.

[Twodogs]

Re: How did the Hawks and Eagles build their Grand Final lists?

Will be well over 1,000 games from that group. That's a massive return in anyone's language. I would've liked another 300 out of Howard, Grant and Ayce though. And Smith to have good knees.

The success we've had with the RL almost makes up for the busts we've had with first rounders. Problem is first rounders is where you get your real quality. With all due respect to the Rookie List boys they aren't well known for their silky skills.

[Sedat]

Re: How did the Hawks and Eagles build their Grand Final lists?

Hawthorn's trade/free agency selections are without peer. They are so good at targeting players from other clubs who will to fill specific roles for them, and they aren't afraid to pay market rate or slightly overs to get their man. Their approach to list management is the anti-Dodoro approach, which is why they have continually improved their list over the years while Essendon remain stuck in terminal mediocrity because they overrate their own players and therefore other clubs can't stand dealing with them.

[Ghost Dog]

Re: How did the Hawks and Eagles build their Grand Final lists?

Hawthorn's trade/free agency selections are without peer. They are so good at targeting players from other clubs who will to fill specific roles for them, and they aren't afraid to pay market rate or slightly overs to get their man. Their approach to list management is the anti-Dodoro approach, which is why they have continually improved their list over the years while Essendon remain stuck in terminal mediocrity because they overrate their own players and therefore other clubs can't stand dealing with them.

One bad year can set you back several. Essendon have a lot of ground to make up for.