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  • Twodogs
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 27664

    #16
    Re: Footy Folklore Fred

    Originally posted by merantau
    Sir Billy was a Melbourne supporter. Not sure if that explains his behaviour or not but the Demons have for a long time now, been unable to go the full distance unlike Sir Billy who was prepared to put in even if it killed him.


    IIRC he was president of Melbourne for a few years. He might have been the prez that lured Barrassi back from memory.


    I have a little folktale all of my own about liberal party leaders. It would have been 1977 or 1978 and the Prime Minster RH Malcolm Fraser made an appearence at western oval to watch Carlton take on the locals. He's sat in the Gent stand looking very statesmen like watching the game. So to halftime as he is coming down the stairs I front him with my Footscray cheer squad one cent a vote favourite Footscray player form. "Hello mr Fraser. I'm from the cheer squad and I thought you might like to vote for your favorite Footscray player" He looked down his nose at me in that supercilious manner he had as two blokes loomed behind him and reached inside the left hand flap of their jackets. Fraser motioned to them, they looked at one another and they stepped just past us. Fraser asked how much it was as he took his wallet out and got a twenty out. I said it was a cent a vote and he looked a bit troubled and said "This is the smallest I've got, have you got any change"? "Sorry mr Fraser but you're the first person I've asked" His eye drifted over to where the cheer squad and I could see him calculating the distance from it's position behind the goals to the Gent stand in his head. "Am I"? He said but he knew when he was being hustled. "Oh well, you'd better have this then" and handed me the twenty. I stood staring at the twenty in my hand and he walked off. He was a few steps away when I yelled out "oh mr Fraser excuse me!" He turned around said "Yes?" "Which player do you want to vote for"? He said that he was happy to vote for whoever my favorite player was and hurried off before I could say anything else.
    They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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    • Bulldog4life
      WOOF Member
      • Oct 2007
      • 9607

      #17
      Re: Footy Folklore Fred

      Originally posted by merantau
      I remember at the time a very strong rumor was that the mystery woman was Sonia McMahon hence the disappearing act.

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      • westdog54
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2007
        • 6686

        #18
        Re: Footy Folklore Fred

        Originally posted by Twodogs
        IIRC he was president of Melbourne for a few years. He might have been the prez that lured Barrassi back from memory.


        I have a little folktale all of my own about liberal party leaders. It would have been 1977 or 1978 and the Prime Minster RH Malcolm Fraser made an appearence at western oval to watch Carlton take on the locals. He's sat in the Gent stand looking very statesmen like watching the game. So to halftime as he is coming down the stairs I front him with my Footscray cheer squad one cent a vote favourite Footscray player form. "Hello mr Fraser. I'm from the cheer squad and I thought you might like to vote for your favorite Footscray player" He looked down his nose at me in that supercilious manner he had as two blokes loomed behind him and reached inside the left hand flap of their jackets. Fraser motioned to them, they looked at one another and they stepped just past us. Fraser asked how much it was as he took his wallet out and got a twenty out. I said it was a cent a vote and he looked a bit troubled and said "This is the smallest I've got, have you got any change"? "Sorry mr Fraser but you're the first person I've asked" His eye drifted over to where the cheer squad and I could see him calculating the distance from it's position behind the goals to the Gent stand in his head. "Am I"? He said but he knew when he was being hustled. "Oh well, you'd better have this then" and handed me the twenty. I stood staring at the twenty in my hand and he walked off. He was a few steps away when I yelled out "oh mr Fraser excuse me!" He turned around said "Yes?" "Which player do you want to vote for"? He said that he was happy to vote for whoever my favorite player was and hurried off before I could say anything else.
        That's one of the most awesome things I've ever read.

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        • merantau
          Coaching Staff
          • May 2015
          • 4099

          #19
          Re: Footy Folklore Fred

          Originally posted by westdog54
          That's one of the most awesome things I've ever read.
          Malcolm Fraser did his finest work in retirement. What a pity he didn't see the light when he had real power. Still a great Australian who redeemed his earlier shortcomings in spades. I truly regretted his passing.
          [URL="http://journals.worldnomads.com/merantau"]http://journals.worldnomads.com/merantau[/URL]
          "It's not about the destination - it's about the trip."

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          • Twodogs
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 27664

            #20
            Re: Footy Folklore Fred

            Originally posted by merantau
            Malcolm Fraser did his finest work in retirement. What a pity he didn't see the light when he had real power. Still a great Australian who redeemed his earlier shortcomings in spades. I truly regretted his passing.
            Talking to him it was weird. He had like an aura about him like a radiating energy. I have met nearly every PM since Gough. It was nothing for me to walk in from school and find John Halfpenny and Bob Hawke, or Joan Kirner at the dining room table arguing or intriguing with the old man. Anyway my point is the fact he was PM wasn't what impressed me overly but there was something about old Mal that made him stand out even from other PMs.
            They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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            • Twodogs
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 27664

              #21
              Re: Footy Folklore Fred

              Originally posted by westdog54
              That's one of the most awesome things I've ever read.
              Actually now that I think about it he wandered off while I was in mid sentence about who my favourite Footscray player was.
              They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 67297

                #22
                Re: Footy Folklore Fred

                Originally posted by Twodogs
                Actually now that I think about it he wandered off while I was in mid sentence about who my favourite Footscray player was.
                Who was your favourite player?
                FFC: Established 1883

                Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                • Twodogs
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 27664

                  #23
                  Re: Footy Folklore Fred

                  Originally posted by bornadog
                  Who was your favourite player?
                  Kelvin Templeton.
                  They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 67297

                    #24
                    Re: Footy Folklore Fred

                    Originally posted by Twodogs
                    Kelvin Templeton.
                    Yeah, same.

                    Kelvin will be 60 years old this year - hard to believe.
                    FFC: Established 1883

                    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                    • Twodogs
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 27664

                      #25
                      Re: Footy Folklore Fred

                      Originally posted by bornadog
                      Yeah, same.

                      Kelvin will be 60 years old this year - hard to believe.
                      When he was at that trainers function last year he didn't look like he was in his sixth decade of life. He didn't exactly look like he was in condition to don the Guernsey again but not almost 60.
                      They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 67297

                        #26
                        Re: Footy Folklore Fred

                        Originally posted by Twodogs
                        When he was at that trainers function last year he didn't look like he was in his sixth decade of life. He didn't exactly look like he was in condition to don the Guernsey again but not almost 60.
                        60 is the new 40
                        FFC: Established 1883

                        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                        • Twodogs
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 27664

                          #27
                          Re: Footy Folklore Fred

                          Originally posted by bornadog
                          60 is the new 40
                          Heh. Makes me 12.
                          They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                          • BornInDroopSt'54
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 5316

                            #28
                            Re: Footy Folklore Fred

                            Originally posted by Twodogs
                            IIRC he was president of Melbourne for a few years. He might have been the prez that lured Barrassi back from memory.


                            Prime Minster RH Malcolm Fraser .. He looked down his nose at me in that supercilious manner he had ...
                            I can vouch for that. I found him by himself at Tammy's open garden. He agreed to answer a private question after looking at me down his nose (it wasn't just his height, it was his manner) from my sandals to my eyes. I asked how he handles his personal energy given he was PM and was still active in humanitarian affairs etc. The great man said "Oh I don't worry about that. The energy comes from doing what you're interested in."
                            His look when he was looking me up and down suggested as I'd suspected that he was autistic.
                            Footscray Football Republic.

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                            • Twodogs
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 27664

                              #29
                              Re: Footy Folklore Fred

                              Originally posted by BornInDroopSt'54
                              I can vouch for that. I found him by himself at Tammy's open garden. He agreed to answer a private question after looking at me down his nose (it wasn't just his height, it was his manner) from my sandals to my eyes. I asked how he handles his personal energy given he was PM and was still active in humanitarian affairs etc. The great man said "Oh I don't worry about that. The energy comes from doing what you're interested in."
                              His look when he was looking me up and down suggested as I'd suspected that he was autistic.

                              I work with people with autism and I know a lot of politicians. Most of the people who go into politics aren't a million miles from being autistic. Their social skills, obsessions and lack of eye contact give them away.
                              They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                              • ledge
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Dec 2007
                                • 14472

                                #30
                                Re: Footy Folklore Fred

                                Huge variances in autism but from what I know they are brilliant at things that interest them, so being autistic can be a massive advantage in that way but just don't take them out of routine.
                                My great nephew is autistic if he has his medicine he is pretty normal. Plays footy at deer park and from what I gather he can play really well but if he doesn't take his medicine he is away with the fairies just walking around taking everything in.
                                He is full on with the western bulldogs and numbers , talked about the movie "imitation game" and he knew the guy back to front , he is only 14.
                                Bring back the biff

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