AFL Round 17 2016 Discussion

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  • G-Mo77
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Apr 2007
    • 9895
    #91
    Re: AFL Round 17 2016 Discussion

    Originally posted by Bulldog4life
    They seem to be starting off a fresh every couple of years for I don't know how long.
    Not really. They continuously bring in players from other club, not good ones, average. Robinson, Bell, Bastinac, West, Walker and this has happened for years.

    I'd trade Rockcliff. Try and get something over 2 drafts for him like GWS did with Collingwood. Let whoever doesn't want to be there go via trade or just walk and bring in players who want to play for the club. Green and Taylor are nobodies so let them go elsewhere. Right now it's a horrible environment for younger players and they need to repair that.

    While Adcock hasn't done a lot for us it was a horrible move to delist a Lions great who, from what I've been told has a terrific attitude. He would have been perfect for them right now.

    They'll get out of this hole. As Bulldog supporters we should know how things can turn around. We did it quickly and if the Lions draft well they can as well.

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      • comrade
        Hall of Fame
        • Jun 2008
        • 18093
        #92
        Re: AFL Round 17 2016 Discussion

        Feels like they need to stop relying on club champion types (Voss, Leppa, Matthews) and bring in non-Brisbane people to objectively assess the situation and make tough decisions. One of them should be moving Rockliff on if they can secure a really juicy deal for him. 2 first rounders etc. Nail the draft, build a culture around the young blokes and let them grow together. Add to the mix with free agents - don't trade in hacks and fringe types like Bastinac, Bell and Walker. Anyone could see those players were going to add nothing to their squad.
        Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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          • bulldogtragic
            The List Manager
            • Jan 2007
            • 34289
            #93
            Re: AFL Round 17 2016 Discussion

            Originally posted by comrade
            Feels like they need to stop relying on club champion types (Voss, Leppa, Matthews) and bring in non-Brisbane people to objectively assess the situation and make tough decisions. One of them should be moving Rockliff on if they can secure a really juicy deal for him. 2 first rounders etc. Nail the draft, build a culture around the young blokes and let them grow together. Add to the mix with free agents - don't trade in hacks and fringe types like Bastinac, Bell and Walker. Anyone could see those players were going to add nothing to their squad.
            Shhhh. Jong for their pick 19. Honeychurch for McStay. Martin for Minson. That's the building blocks to good young hard at it leaders, and their future.
            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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              • boydogs
                WOOF Member
                • Apr 2009
                • 5845
                #94
                Re: AFL Round 17 2016 Discussion

                Brisbane would improve overnight with a new coach. Players like Rockliff & Martin should be AA but are poorly utilised, they both spend way too much time forward. They have a lot of young talls not delivering much right now but they've already got the spine of their next finals team. Can see them doing a Carlton next year with a Brendan Bolton type
                If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

                Formerly gogriff

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                  • westdog54
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 6686
                    #95
                    Re: AFL Round 17 2016 Discussion

                    Originally posted by boydogs
                    Brisbane would improve overnight with a new coach. Players like Rockliff & Martin should be AA but are poorly utilised, they both spend way too much time forward. They have a lot of young talls not delivering much right now but they've already got the spine of their next finals team. Can see them doing a Carlton next year with a Brendan Bolton type
                    Is there a 'Brendan Bolton type' available, though? Bolton's credentials were outstanding even before his run as acting coach at Hawthorn.

                    Then again, so were Beveridge's and he was largely unheralded when we appointed him.

                    Whoever it is it needs to be someone with no previous links to Brisbane.

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                      • LostDoggy
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8307
                        #96
                        Re: AFL Round 17 2016 Discussion

                        Originally posted by G-Mo77
                        Not really. They continuously bring in players from other club, not good ones, average. Robinson, Bell, Bastinac, West, Walker and this has happened for years.

                        I'd trade Rockcliff. Try and get something over 2 drafts for him like GWS did with Collingwood. Let whoever doesn't want to be there go via trade or just walk and bring in players who want to play for the club. Green and Taylor are nobodies so let them go elsewhere. Right now it's a horrible environment for younger players and they need to repair that.

                        While Adcock hasn't done a lot for us it was a horrible move to delist a Lions great who, from what I've been told has a terrific attitude. He would have been perfect for them right now.

                        They'll get out of this hole. As Bulldog supporters we should know how things can turn around. We did it quickly and if the Lions draft well they can as well.
                        Agree with this. They have a very good list of developing young talls which is probably the hardest part of a list build. With some strong leadership, they'll be competitive quickly.

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                          • jeemak
                            Bulldog Legend
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 22011
                            #97
                            Re: AFL Round 17 2016 Discussion

                            Paul Roos would be the ideal candidate to help them achieve a mediocre result in three short years. He's free soon.

                            Jokes aside, they need to land a seriously experienced coach and a few high quality assistant coaches from two or three different clubs to bring some diversity to the club. If Brett Ratten was up for the job emotionally he'd be a consideration for the top role in my view.
                            TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                              • Missing Dog
                                WOOF Member
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 8501
                                #98
                                Re: AFL Round 17 2016 Discussion

                                I was thinking Ratten but maybe someone like a Rohan Smith get him to pick his team and build from there.

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