Veteran Roos culled

[jeemak]

Re: Veteran Roos culled

A good comparison is between Brad Scott and Rocket. Whilst we made 3 PF's in a row under similar circumstances in 2008-10, we were in reality much closer to a GF and a premiership than Norf were in 2014-15 despite the same PF finish. They finished no higher than 6th in H&A in the 7 years under Brad Scott whereas we finished top 4 in 3 consecutive years and were just pipped in 2 of those PF's - as a comparison Rocket was sacked after his 7th year at the kennel when we were already on the downward spiral and outside the top 8, whereas Scott is asking to lead the charge on an overdue rebuild while he torches a club legend still playing close enough to his peak. Both Rocket and Brad Scott topped up to try and reach the holy grail, which is entirely fair, and whilst Rocket was slow to regenerate our senior team with youth after we hit the skids, he was Speedy Gonzalez compared to Brad Scott.

The only winner out of this is Firrito - he is somehow being lumped into a conversation about 3 other genuinely top shelf players despite being a talentless dud shit hack sniper whose games tally of 270-odd is proof that Norf have had terrible depth and no injuries (until this year) during the Scott era.

I don't disagree with any of what you've posted, though that's not really what my post was getting to.

Look at it this way, if Brad Scott is such an ordinary coach then that's basically admitting that North has underachieved these past few years and should have finished higher on the ladder and been closer in the prelims they played. Does anyone really believe that's the case?

My view is they've actually been fortunate that only one side has been premiership material these past two years and the rest have been top six quality sides. It's funny that this year, it seems there's about six or seven top four material sides but not one clearly excellent team.

Hawks have won a tripple in some of the weakest fields going around, North have finished top four due to the same reason and I think a lot of that was due to coaching. I rate Scott a bit higher than most, though I don't rate North's list management.

[1eyedog]

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Brent Harvey likely to play at the Bulldogs next year

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/localfooty/north-heidelberg-pretty-confident-north-melbourne-champion-brent-harvey-would-play-at-the-bulldogs/news-story/4417e9fece117fa9e87ec74f097e25e9

[Rocco Jones]

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But that's my point. We don't need washed up heroes topping up their super at our club anymore. He'll be 39 next year and expect a downward spiral. Let pathetic clubs like North and the Pies pick up the flotsam and jetsam of the draft. We have a very strong list now and for mine getting Boomer would be just too weird.

Washed up? Washed up is when your form goes down. He has been quality this year. People said he was too 6 years ago.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Veteran Roos culled

Brent Harvey likely to play at the Bulldogs next year

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/l...7ec74f097e25e9

Finally, a click bait worth the click.

[1eyedog]

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Washed up? Washed up is when your form goes down. He has been quality this year. People said he was too 6 years ago.

I mean more the very end of his career rather than his output, washed up in terms of it's his time. That said his first half of the year was superior to his second and I am concerned about the expected form drop off next year. Added to this I just can't get past the thought of him in our colours. If the powers that be think he's our 2017 Jed Adcock so be it.

[Rocco Jones]

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I mean more the very end of his career rather than his output, washed up in terms of it's his time. That said his first half of the year was superior to his second and I am concerned about the expected form drop off next year. Added to this I just can't get past the thought of him in our colours. If the powers that be think he's our 2017 Jed Adcock so be it.

Jed Adcock looked way older in 2015 than Brent Harvey does in 2016. Harvey looks like a 20 year old out there compared to Suckers.

[Rocco Jones]

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I think recruiters often think inside the square, group thinK. Ignore all rational that says Harvey is still quality and in all likelihood, contribute to a contending side's best 22 just because his birth certificate indicates he is 38.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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Once the dust settles, I can't see Boomer wanting to go on.

Still - it's a mistake by Norf. As much as I can't stand him, he's still a pretty good player and would be in their top 6.

[bulldogtragic]

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I can't wait to see North crowds turn on players like Nahas who will be gifted games in Harvey's absence, and do nothing of substance. Who does Picken smash from now on? Swallow?

[Rocco Jones]

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Once the dust settles, I can't see Boomer wanting to go on.

Still - it's a mistake by Norf. As much as I can't stand him, he's still a pretty good player and would be in their top 6.

I can't stand him either but he is still quality. When rating players I think about how dangerous I see them when they are playing the Dogs. Boomer still warrants close attention.

There was a comment about his form dropping off toward the end of the season. In North's last 6 games they have played some very decent opposition. His stats are...
Average 1.5 goals per game
8.5 score involvements per game (Eddie Betts is #4 overall in score involvements this year and he averages 8.1)
25 disposals per game

[1eyedog]

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Finally, a click bait worth the click.

Couldn't help it

[Twodogs]

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I can't wait to see North crowds turn on players like Nahas who will be gifted games in Harvey's absence, and do nothing of substance. Who does Picken smash from now on? Swallow?

Reckon Nahas and a few others will be cut with less fanfare and no fond farewell later in tge trade period. Unless he's contracted for next year of course.

Like, snortle, Liam Jones is at Carlton!

[Remi Moses]

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Jed Adcock looked way older in 2015 than Brent Harvey does in 2016. Harvey looks like a 20 year old out there compared to Suckers.

Bit harsh on Suckling . Reckon he's been carrying that Achilles for a while

[1eyedog]

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I think recruiters often think inside the square, group thinK. Ignore all rational that says Harvey is still quality and in all likelihood, contribute to a contending side's best 22 just because his birth certificate indicates he is 38.

You're right. His form this year is best 22 at most if not all clubs. It's just like Doug and Fitzroy though and it shouldn't happen.

[Rocco Jones]

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Bit harsh on Suckling . Reckon he's been carrying that Achilles for a while

Not having a go at Suckling. Quality player. Just people are so obsessed with heights, weights and birth certificates. Play footy very well is important too!