GWS and Lachie Whitfield - Drugs Investigation

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  • Twodogs
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 27656

    Re: GWS and Lachie Whitfield - Drugs Investigation

    Originally posted by comrade
    Draft picks need to be taken away because I hate GWS.

    This.
    They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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    • 1eyedog
      Hall of Fame
      • Mar 2008
      • 13237

      Re: GWS and Lachie Whitfield - Drugs Investigation

      Originally posted by comrade
      Draft picks need to be taken away because I hate GWS.
      15 will be the earliest they lose.
      But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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      • bulldogtragic
        The List Manager
        • Jan 2007
        • 34289

        Re: GWS and Lachie Whitfield - Drugs Investigation

        Hopefully they'll lose pick 15. Surely there needs to be some public deterant, but I'm not going to put a brass razo on it though.
        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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        • macca
          Coaching Staff
          • Sep 2007
          • 2368

          Re: GWS and Lachie Whitfield - Drugs Investigation

          if they lose 15 does that mean our pick 18 moves up one ?

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          • GVGjr
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 44695

            Re: GWS and Lachie Whitfield - Drugs Investigation

            Originally posted by macca
            if they lose 15 does that mean our pick 18 moves up one ?
            Yes,
            Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              Re: GWS and Lachie Whitfield - Drugs Investigation

              Originally posted by 1eyedog
              15 will be the earliest they lose.
              Why wouldn't they lose pick 2 and 15?

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              • 1eyedog
                Hall of Fame
                • Mar 2008
                • 13237

                Re: GWS and Lachie Whitfield - Drugs Investigation

                Originally posted by redders70
                Why wouldn't they lose pick 2 and 15?
                I have no idea why pick 2 wasn't mentioned.
                But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                • Topdog
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 7471

                  Re: GWS and Lachie Whitfield - Drugs Investigation

                  Originally posted by 1eyedog
                  I have no idea why pick 2 wasn't mentioned.
                  Cant punish them too much, its GWS after all

                  Would be an extremely light sentence if that is what gets handed down for both club and player.

                  Actually and both admin staff too.

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                  • 1eyedog
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 13237

                    Re: GWS and Lachie Whitfield - Drugs Investigation

                    Originally posted by Topdog
                    Cant punish them too much, its GWS after all

                    Would be an extremely light sentence if that is what gets handed down for both club and player.

                    Actually and both admin staff too.
                    I can see WADA coming over the top. If the Essendon fiasco is anything to go by ASADA and WADA seem to be reading from different pages.
                    But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                    • Twodogs
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 27656

                      Re: GWS and Lachie Whitfield - Drugs Investigation

                      Originally posted by 1eyedog
                      I can see WADA coming over the top. If the Essendon fiasco is anything to go by ASADA and WADA seem to be reading from different pages.

                      WADA have a lot of problems in their lap all of a sudden. Countries are starting to ask what happens to the money they pour into it and why there are still so many drug cheats around. WADA were supposed to fix the problem or at least make a dent on it.

                      WADA are taking us all for fools.
                      They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                      • Topdog
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 7471

                        Re: GWS and Lachie Whitfield - Drugs Investigation

                        Originally posted by Twodogs
                        WADA have a lot of problems in their lap all of a sudden. Countries are starting to ask what happens to the money they pour into it and why there are still so many drug cheats around. WADA were supposed to fix the problem or at least make a dent on it.
                        Link for that?

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                        • Greystache
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 9775

                          Re: GWS and Lachie Whitfield - Drugs Investigation

                          Originally posted by 1eyedog
                          I can see WADA coming over the top. If the Essendon fiasco is anything to go by ASADA and WADA seem to be reading from different pages.
                          I don't think that's the case, I'd say WADA and it's local affiliates are all very much on the same page. There's only so many cases WADA can escalate to an independent environment. Resourcing and funding just doesn't allow it to prosecute every case its local affiliates would like, so it has to prioritize the cases that hold the most value from a ROI perspective. 34 players from one club in a systemic doping program yes, 1 player avoiding tests because he suspects he's taken something illegal no. It's just the economics of things.

                          When local sporting competitions have a clear cut strategy of brand protection at all costs, and have little regard for the perception of integrity, a local body such as ASADA is always going to be up against it. They have to either catch the player red handed with a positive test so the league can't cover it up, or uncover something large enough to warrant WADA taking it to a proper hearing, otherwise organisation like the AFEL will go to extremes to clear their player or at the minimum negotiate heavily reduced sentences like we see in this case.

                          It's far from ideal, but it's infinitely better than the local sporting competitions controlling it themselves, which would see large scale doping being the norm with the organisation itself helping to keep it all under the rug to protect its brand.
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                          • Twodogs
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 27656

                            Re: GWS and Lachie Whitfield - Drugs Investigation

                            Originally posted by Topdog
                            Link for that?

                            The World Anti-Doping Agency has found a host of problems with the doping tests organized by the IOC at the Rio de Janeiro Olympics. The whole thing is a farce, writes DW's Olivia Gerstenberger.
                            They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                            • Topdog
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 7471

                              Re: GWS and Lachie Whitfield - Drugs Investigation

                              Yeah thats IOC, an organisation that has been thought to be corrupt for a long time now. WADA blasted their program

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                              • Greystache
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Dec 2009
                                • 9775

                                Re: GWS and Lachie Whitfield - Drugs Investigation

                                Originally posted by Topdog
                                Yeah thats IOC, an organisation that has been thought to be corrupt for a long time now. WADA blasted their program
                                Imagine the testing standards of a competition like the NFL where there's no independent body overseeing it. A player's urine sample could be fluorescent green and the tester would drop it in the sink and go oops but don't worry it looked clean to me. Fortunately for the league no one outside their control will ever be involved in the process. Athletes just need to avoid getting caught out by a paper trail that makes its way to the public like the shambles that was BALCO.
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