GWS and Lachie Whitfield - Drugs Investigation

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  • G-Mo77
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Apr 2007
    • 9876

    Re: GWS and Lachie Whitfield - Drugs Investigation

    Originally posted by 1eyedog
    Banned from the club for the next 4 months so coveniently gets back to training in round 1.
    Isn't that a terrific outcome for him and the club.

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    • Twodogs
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 27655

      Re: GWS and Lachie Whitfield - Drugs Investigation

      Originally posted by Topdog
      So to get this straight.

      Investigation took ~ 18 months.
      Whitfield played an entire season while under investigation.
      Whitfield played finals and had the opportunity to shape a prelim final.
      6 weeks after finals series and ~18 months of investigation he gets a 6 month ban (max available was 4 years)
      6 month ban only suspends him from the club for 4 months (happens to be round 1)
      officials involved get 12 month bans.

      Yeah that sounds like an AFEL investigation if ever I've seen one.
      No. That's outrageous even by AFEL standards when you set it out like that.
      They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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      • GVGjr
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 44653

        Re: GWS and Lachie Whitfield - Drugs Investigation

        Originally posted by 1eyedog
        Banned from the club for the next 4 months so coveniently gets back to training in round 1.
        Seems very lenient to me. I wouldn't have allowed him back until a couple of weeks before the ban ends.
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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 44653

          Re: GWS and Lachie Whitfield - Drugs Investigation

          Originally posted by Topdog
          So to get this straight.

          Investigation took ~ 18 months.
          Whitfield played an entire season while under investigation.
          Whitfield played finals and had the opportunity to shape a prelim final.
          6 weeks after finals series and ~18 months of investigation he gets a 6 month ban (max available was 4 years)
          6 month ban only suspends him from the club for 4 months (happens to be round 1)
          officials involved get 12 month bans.

          Yeah that sounds like an AFEL investigation if ever I've seen one.
          He won't have learned too much from this experience.
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          • 1eyedog
            Hall of Fame
            • Mar 2008
            • 13236

            Re: GWS and Lachie Whitfield - Drugs Investigation

            Originally posted by GVGjr
            Seems very lenient to me. I wouldn't have allowed him back until a couple of weeks before the ban ends.
            Any chance of WADA stepping in? Perhaps it was sorted that they wouldn't prior to the announcement.
            But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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            • Twodogs
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 27655

              Re: GWS and Lachie Whitfield - Drugs Investigation

              Originally posted by GVGjr
              He won't have learned too much from this experience.

              He will have learned plenty. He's learned that he can flout the drug code and get away with it virtually Scott free for a start.
              They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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              • 1eyedog
                Hall of Fame
                • Mar 2008
                • 13236

                Re: GWS and Lachie Whitfield - Drugs Investigation

                Originally posted by Twodogs
                He will have learned plenty. He's learned that he can flout the drug code and get away with it virtually Scott free for a start.
                Well the positive for us is that a team of first round picks potentially all juiced up on gear couldn't get the job done
                But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                • Greystache
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 9775

                  Re: GWS and Lachie Whitfield - Drugs Investigation

                  Originally posted by Topdog
                  So to get this straight.

                  Investigation took ~ 18 months.
                  Whitfield played an entire season while under investigation.
                  Whitfield played finals and had the opportunity to shape a prelim final.
                  6 weeks after finals series and ~18 months of investigation he gets a 6 month ban (max available was 4 years)
                  6 month ban only suspends him from the club for 4 months (happens to be round 1)
                  officials involved get 12 month bans.

                  Yeah that sounds like an AFEL investigation if ever I've seen one.
                  You left out;

                  It wouldn't have made it to the public if a 3rd party didn't escalate it to ASADA.
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                  • Greystache
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 9775

                    Re: GWS and Lachie Whitfield - Drugs Investigation

                    Originally posted by 1eyedog
                    Any chance of WADA stepping in? Perhaps it was sorted that they wouldn't prior to the announcement.
                    You can be pretty confident WADA would've been approached by ASADA to see if they'd step in, and that the answer was no. Hence the highly favourable deal the AFEL was able to strike with ASADA.
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                    • Bulldog Revolution
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 3926

                      Re: GWS and Lachie Whitfield - Drugs Investigation

                      Incredibly soft penalty for Whitfield - anything less than a full season ban is too lenient

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                      • 1eyedog
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 13236

                        Re: GWS and Lachie Whitfield - Drugs Investigation

                        Originally posted by Greystache
                        You can be pretty confident WADA would've been approached by ASADA to see if they'd step in, and that the answer was no. Hence the highly favourable deal the AFEL was able to strike with ASADA.
                        That was my initial thought too.
                        But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                        • Greystache
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 9775

                          Re: GWS and Lachie Whitfield - Drugs Investigation

                          Originally posted by 1eyedog
                          That was my initial thought too.
                          The AFEL have ASADA over a barrel and both parties know it. It's a broken system when an organisation such as the AFEL, with its track record of highly questionable outcomes from investigations it conducts, chooses a panel to find guilt or innocence of it's own employees. A decision that stands as final unless the world anti-doping body chooses to escalate it to a neutral environment which is a long and incredibly expensive process.

                          More often than not a home grown kangaroo court decision would be final, so ASADA is forced to take what they can get. Organisations like the AFL should have no involvement in the decision making process, but due to costs isn't likely to change.
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                          • bulldogtragic
                            The List Manager
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 34289

                            Re: GWS and Lachie Whitfield - Drugs Investigation

                            Saad looks really hard done by now. He should've requested a trade to a club the AFEL goes out of its way to protect.
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                            • Greystache
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 9775

                              Re: GWS and Lachie Whitfield - Drugs Investigation

                              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                              Saad looks really hard done by now. He should've requested a trade to a club the AFEL goes out of its way to protect.
                              Nah he tested positive to an ASADA test. Can't lose your mobile phone and have the investigation closed in that situation. Anything other than a positive test however...
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                              • Topdog
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 7471

                                Re: GWS and Lachie Whitfield - Drugs Investigation

                                Originally posted by Greystache
                                Nah he tested positive to an ASADA test. Can't lose your mobile phone and have the investigation closed in that situation. Anything other than a positive test however...
                                I keep mixing people up but I thought he just imported something in?

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