2016 Cash Converters - Recycling Pre-Loved Players

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  • Scraggers
    Premiership Moderator
    • Jun 2008
    • 3571

    Re: 2016 Cash Converters - Recycling Pre-Loved Players

    How does the DFA process work? Do we just make an offer to a player and forego a late pick?

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    • bulldogtragic
      The List Manager
      • Jan 2007
      • 34289

      Re: 2016 Cash Converters - Recycling Pre-Loved Players

      Originally posted by Scraggers
      How does the DFA process work? Do we just make an offer to a player and forego a late pick?
      Yep. Bingo.
      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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      • Scraggers
        Premiership Moderator
        • Jun 2008
        • 3571

        Re: 2016 Cash Converters - Recycling Pre-Loved Players

        Originally posted by bulldogtragic
        Yep. Bingo.
        The player then chooses to accept this offer or decline and wait for a better offer? Seems convoluted. Is there any order, rhyme or reason to the selections? i.e. Do Essendon get first selection and we get last or is it first come, first served?

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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 45026

          Re: 2016 Cash Converters - Recycling Pre-Loved Players

          Originally posted by Scraggers
          The player then chooses to accept this offer or decline and wait for a better offer? Seems convoluted. Is there any order, rhyme or reason to the selections? i.e. Do Essendon get first selection and we get last or is it first come, first served?

          I believe that once a DFA and a club agree to terms then the player can join the club for a back ended draft pick providing the team still maintains 3 National draft selections. In our example a DFA could be signed for pick 70 leaving us picks 18, 26 and 50 at the National draft.
          Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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          • bulldogtragic
            The List Manager
            • Jan 2007
            • 34289

            Re: 2016 Cash Converters - Recycling Pre-Loved Players

            Originally posted by Scraggers
            The player then chooses to accept this offer or decline and wait for a better offer? Seems convoluted. Is there any order, rhyme or reason to the selections? i.e. Do Essendon get first selection and we get last or is it first come, first served?
            Originally posted by GVGjr
            I believe that once a DFA and a club agree to terms then the player can join the club for a back ended draft pick providing the team still maintains 3 National draft selections. In our example a DFA could be signed for pick 70 leaving us picks 18, 26 and 50 at the National draft.
            Yep that's my understanding too. It's not so much contrived/convoluted as all other 17 clubs can pitch to the player in an open marketplace and most delisted fee agents will not be selected in any event. But more will make it to a new home (especially the home of their choosing) than through the old PSD system. In our case this year it's pick 70 or a DFA of a player who agrees to come to us.
            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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            • jazzadogs
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Oct 2008
              • 5721

              Re: 2016 Cash Converters - Recycling Pre-Loved Players

              Originally posted by GVGjr
              I believe that once a DFA and a club agree to terms then the player can join the club for a back ended draft pick providing the team still maintains 3 National draft selections. In our example a DFA could be signed for pick 70 leaving us picks 18, 26 and 50 at the National draft.
              Essentially right, except there is no draft pick allocated to the player. They are essentially a free agent in the same way that Daniel Wells was a free agent this year - the club taking him only gives up salary and a list space - but with the difference being their previous club has no right to the player, nor receives compensation.

              We don't 'use' a draft pick on them, but forego our last pick because we have filled the spot already.

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              • bulldogtragic
                The List Manager
                • Jan 2007
                • 34289

                Re: 2016 Cash Converters - Recycling Pre-Loved Players

                TALENTED young Greater Western Sydney onballer Jake Barrett is available as a free agent after being delisted by the Giants.

                However the 20-year-old, who played in the club's' NEAFL premiership this season, is likely to be re-drafted as a rookie by the Giants if another team doesn't come knocking.

                The cousin of Hawthorn star Luke Breust has been a consistent performer in the NEAFL, winning the inside ball and contested possessions, but he has not been able to break into the star-studded Giants midfield.

                Barrett played has one AFL game, in the final round of 2015, where he came on as a substitute and picked up seven disposals, and played in the NAB Challenge series in the past two seasons.

                The Temora product has played for three seasons at that level after the Giants added him to their list as a NSW-ACT priority selection in 2013.

                With a rugby league background, Barrett is a strong tackler and is still held in high esteem at the Giants, who have to cut back their list as part of their establishment rules.

                The delisted free agency period opened for a week on Tuesday with the first period ending on November 8.
                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                • comrade
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 18093

                  Re: 2016 Cash Converters - Recycling Pre-Loved Players

                  Lucky Luke Breust's cousin was uncovered by the GWS Academy. How would he have ever found AFL?
                  Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                  • Topdog
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 7471

                    Re: 2016 Cash Converters - Recycling Pre-Loved Players

                    Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                    We are well and truly in premiership contention.
                    In contention? We are reigning premiers!

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                    • Mofra
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 15064

                      Re: 2016 Cash Converters - Recycling Pre-Loved Players

                      Originally posted by GVGjr
                      Do we not have an issue with being a bit short on key position defenders or a support ruckman? Did we not lose some depth with the loss of Hamling, Stevens and Hrovat which of course we now have Cloke in the positive column?

                      I look at our playing list and see opportunities to improve and I don't buy that it's not required.
                      You missed the bit where I said O'Shea is fine?
                      Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                      • Twodogs
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 27664

                        Re: 2016 Cash Converters - Recycling Pre-Loved Players

                        Originally posted by comrade
                        Lucky Luke Breust's cousin was uncovered by the GWS Academy. How would he have ever found AFL?
                        Yep. That's a huge piece of luck.
                        They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                        • Axe Man
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 11318

                          Re: 2016 Cash Converters - Recycling Pre-Loved Players

                          Ricky Henderson expected to join the hawks.

                          Michael Barlow has met with the Suns.

                          Xavier Richards and Josh Green have met with Essendon.

                          Overall very little action with the delisted free agents. Looking like most will have to wait until the rookie draft to see if they will get another chance.

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                          • bulldogtragic
                            The List Manager
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 34289

                            Re: 2016 Cash Converters - Recycling Pre-Loved Players

                            Originally posted by Axe Man
                            Ricky Henderson expected to join the hawks.

                            Michael Barlow has met with the Suns.

                            Xavier Richards and Josh Green have met with Essendon.

                            Overall very little action with the delisted free agents. Looking like most will have to wait until the rookie draft to see if they will get another chance.
                            It seems the clubs (for the most part) are 'waging the dog' by almost all universally holding off on DFAs thereby forcing them into the rookie draft and using the rookie draft as not only an exercise of selecting raw kids, but getting ready made depth on the cheap and off the primary list. It seems to be artificially changing the value down on these guys which is good for clubs.
                            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                            • Axe Man
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 11318

                              Re: 2016 Cash Converters - Recycling Pre-Loved Players

                              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                              It seems the clubs (for the most part) are 'waging the dog' by almost all universally holding off on DFAs thereby forcing them into the rookie draft and using the rookie draft as not only an exercise of selecting raw kids, but getting ready made depth on the cheap and off the primary list. It seems to be artificially changing the value down on these guys which is good for clubs.
                              Probably part of the reason 2017 will likely be the last year for the rookie list.

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                              • Mofra
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 15064

                                Re: 2016 Cash Converters - Recycling Pre-Loved Players

                                Henry Schade delisted, we were interested in him 2 years ago.
                                Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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