On the outer

[bulldogtragic]

Re: On the outer

First time ever cap space became such a priority for teams. Hawks and Geelong both lost required players and Port were hamstrung by their cap issues.

Feels like there will be some huge dollars thrown at free agents and out of contract players next year.

Deledio apparently took a big pay cut according to GWS and someone took Rhys Palmer, despite his shitness and modest salary. Interesting period in deed.

[LostDoggy]

Re: On the outer

He's not for us, but I can't believe Michael Barlow is in that list. A big bodied midfelder who is hard, wins his own ball and runs all day should be in demand.

[GVGjr]

Re: On the outer

He's not for us, but I can't believe Michael Barlow is in that list. A big bodied midfelder who is hard, wins his own ball and runs all day should be in demand.

Could you imagine him playing off a HBF? He could be quite a damaging defender.
He might have lost a step in pace but he could easily slot into other roles.

[comrade]

Re: On the outer

He's not for us, but I can't believe Michael Barlow is in that list. A big bodied midfelder who is hard, wins his own ball and runs all day should be in demand.

Player values have tanked, haven't they?

I think it's happened for a few reasons:

A) 2016 is a very strong and deep draft class and picks/list spots are at a premium
B) clubs are wary about salary cap in preparation for next year's free agent class and,
C) the AFL still hasn't locked in the TPP increase, so list managers are negotiating in the dark and it's easier to draft a kid on rookie dollars than spend up on mature players.

[Twodogs]

Re: On the outer

Could you imagine him playing off a HBF? He could be quite a damaging defender.
He might have lost a step in pace but he could easily slot into other roles.

I don't think pace is a real issue with guys like Barlow because they know where the ball is going before most other players.

[GVGjr]

Re: On the outer

While we are unlikely to open up another spot I do believe there are players on the opening post list that could help improve our list.
One for the WOOF members, are there any players you would like to bring in?

[comrade]

Re: On the outer

While we are unlikely to open up another spot I do believe there are players on the opening post list that could help improve our list.
One for the WOOF members, are there any players you would like to bring in?

Litherland and O'Shea are of the most interest me. I like unheralded role playing defenders (Biggs, Rampe, Dempster types), and I'm confident Bevo could find a spot for either of them in the squad.

[azabob]

Re: On the outer

I wonder what Bevridge's thoughts on Angus Litherland are?

Is an OK height and has some ability could be an ok stop gap.

I still think Jack Grimes could be an ok rookie list option - I think from memory there are only two other WOOFers who agree.

[GVGjr]

Re: On the outer

I wonder what Bevridge's thoughts on Angus Litherland are?

Is an OK height and has some ability could be an ok stop gap.

I still think Jack Grimes could be an ok rookie list option - I think from memory there are only two other WOOFers who agree.

No question that Grimes can play but I suspect Melbourne just didn't see him as being able to hold a regular spot. He played very well in the last month or so in the VFL but only got 2 senior games with Melbourne. The reports from a mate is that he lost a bit of pace

[Scraggers]

Re: On the outer

I like the idea of either Richards or O'Shea ... both fit our current list. I would even look at using a late pick in the draft before the PSD. We've got picks 18, 26, 50, 75, 80, 94, 112. I would use 18, 26, 50 as live picks 75, 80 as elevated rookies and 94 & 112 to pick up Richards or O'Shea or both

[bulldogtragic]

Re: On the outer

I like the idea of either Richards or O'Shea ... both fit our current list. I would even look at using a late pick in the draft before the PSD. We've got picks 18, 26, 50, 75, 80, 94, 112. I would use 18, 26, 50 as live picks 75, 80 as elevated rookies and 94 & 112 to pick up Richards or O'Shea or both

How many extra delistings are you making, 7 draft picks plus Cloke means 8 delistings. We've 4 gone. Who are your other 4 to delist?

[Twodogs]

Re: On the outer

No question that Grimes can play but I suspect Melbourne just didn't see him as being able to hold a regular spot. He played very well in the last month or so in the VFL but only got 2 senior games with Melbourne. The reports from a mate is that he lost a bit of pace

Surely Melbourne would have been giving him games at the end of the season if they thought he had a future? He was fit for most of the backend of the season and if they only gave him 2 games to look at him then it probably says everything about where he is at now. Its a shame because he really looked a good player when he was drafted. Then again it is Melbourne we are talking about-if any club is going to get this wrong its them (or maybe Richmond)

How many extra delistings are you making, 7 draft picks plus Cloke means 8 delistings. We've 4 gone. Who are your other 4 to delist?

I think we will only use 3 picks in the ND. One Rookie upgrade (although we don't really need to do that because Roarke Smith could just cover the guys who are injured-but I like the idea of rewarding hard work and grasping your chances with the extra security of a spot on the senior list-if anyone has earned that then its Roarke Smith) and maybe a cover KPP, although that could be on the Rookie List as well.

So we could get away with minimal list changes. One traded in, three ND picks, maybe 4 and 2 RL picks or maybe 3 depending on how many ND choices we make.

[FrediKanoute]

Re: On the outer

I don't think pace is a real issue with guys like Barlow because they know where the ball is going before most other players.

A Matty Boyd replacement?

[westdog54]

Re: On the outer

I wonder what Bevridge's thoughts on Angus Litherland are?

Is an OK height and has some ability could be an ok stop gap.

I still think Jack Grimes could be an ok rookie list option - I think from memory there are only two other WOOFers who agree.

Litherland may be a chance to get rookied if we need some defensive depth.

[Twodogs]

Re: On the outer

A Matty Boyd replacement?

Along with Dale Morris, Keithy Boyd is pretty much irreplaceable. It's hard to remember bulldog teams without one or the other.