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2012 Brownlow Medal to go to Sam Mitchell and Trent Cotchin
Re: 2012 Brownlow Medal to go to Sam Mitchell and Trent Cotchin
At least Jobe doesn't have it. I hope the players knock it back and just leave it as an asterisk.
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Re: 2012 Brownlow Medal to go to Sam Mitchell and Trent Cotchin
Well they were the two best and fairest players in the comp for that year... Aren't Olympic gold medals awarded to the runner up if the winner tests positive to a banned substance?
But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.
Re: 2012 Brownlow Medal to go to Sam Mitchell and Trent Cotchin
Originally posted by 1eyedog
Well they were the two best and fairest players in the comp for that year... Aren't Olympic gold medals awarded to the runner up if the winner tests positive to a banned substance?
I get what you are saying but Olympic medals are an acknowledgement for winning or placing your in your event on that day not a combination of points acquired over an extended period so I'm not sure it quite stacks up. Do we take Watsons votes out and move every player that got 2 or 1 votes in those games he polled in and reallocate those votes?
I think it's more like those bike rides where the years Armstrong won but got disqualified are somewhat erased. Just my opinion though. I don't mind Mitchell or Cotchin but did they really win it?
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Re: 2012 Brownlow Medal to go to Sam Mitchell and Trent Cotchin
Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
Mitchell and Cotchin are no less deserving than anyone who finished 2nd to a tribunal supended player and were therefore declared the winner.
This. Cotchin and Mitchell fully deserve their Brownlows, and have actually been cheated out of their moment 4 years ago by someone who played that season with the benefit of performance enhancing drugs.
Re: 2012 Brownlow Medal to go to Sam Mitchell and Trent Cotchin
Originally posted by GVGjr
I get what you are saying but Olympic medals are an acknowledgement for winning or placing your in your event on that day not a combination of points acquired over an extended period so I'm not sure it quite stacks up. Do we take Watsons votes out and move every player that got 2 or 1 votes in those games he polled in and reallocate those votes?
I think it's more like those bike rides where the years Armstrong won but got disqualified are somewhat erased. Just my opinion though. I don't mind Mitchell or Cotchin but did they really win it?
Understand your point, there are problems with it but I think a common sense approach needs to prevail.
Most Olympic sports are subject to heats, finals and then the final over many days, sometimes over a week. What about the swimmers who swam fourth in the semis and missed out on a crack at the final? Regardless of the above gold medals are awarded to the runner up in the event of a positive test.
I'm not saying it's ideal, but an asterix all over the record books in world sports would be depressing as a sports fan and extremely frustrating for all those sports people who worked so hard and ran second to a drug cheat. It's fine to punish the winner and strip them of their medal, but second place would need to live with that for the rest of their lives too.
But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.
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