Rule changes for 2017

[boydogs]

Re: Rule changes for 2017

A lot of the rule changes are related to time wasting tactics. 50 years ago it was bad sportsmanship and dishonourable, nowadays any advantage a team can take they will

This goes for rushed behind, dragging the ball in holding the ball, deliberate out of bounds, minimum kicking distance for a mark, ruck taps out of bounds on the full, kickout out of bounds without being touched, 30 second shots for goal

I'm waiting for them to bring in play on from a mark when it's kicked backwards next

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Rule changes for 2017

A lot of the rule changes are related to time wasting tactics. 50 years ago it was bad sportsmanship and dishonourable, nowadays any advantage a team can take they will

This goes for rushed behind, dragging the ball in holding the ball, deliberate out of bounds, minimum kicking distance for a mark, ruck taps out of bounds on the full, kickout out of bounds without being touched

I'm waiting for them to bring in play on from a mark when it's kicked backwards next

That was trialled in the VFL for a season or two. Didn't really seem to work. So on that basis, the AFEL will do it.

[Bornadog]

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10 metre exclusion Zone out the window - really the AFL has no credibility.

[comrade]

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10 metre exclusion Zone out the window - really the AFL has no credibility.

I'm glad that has eased off. Hate that rule.

[Go_Dogs]

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Has there been a formal announcement or just based on what you see being called?

[comrade]

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Has there been a formal announcement or just based on what you see being called?

No formal announcement I'm pretty sure, it just rarely gets called anymore. Remember when it was first introduced? Some of the stupidest 50m penalties you'll ever see.

[Bornadog]

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No formal announcement I'm pretty sure, it just rarely gets called anymore. Remember when it was first introduced? Some of the stupidest 50m penalties you'll ever see.

Yep that is what is happening. The AFEL change things then don't enforce it. No wonder supporters get pissed off with umpiring and stupid rule changes.

[SonofScray]

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I don't mind the rule changes re: interchange v substitutes etc. Rules that force attrition and the use of the entire squad are palatable to me. Its the stuff relating to actual skills of the game, or trying to predetermine the look of a contest that really irritate me.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

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One thing that has left me bewildered after the good friday game has been how media commentators and, even harder to believe, AFL coaches (Scott brothers) who are so shot sighted and unaware of how ruck contests work. There has been so many suggestions to fix the 3rd man up rule by simply removing the nomination process and awarding a free kick against any player who jumps 3rd man up at a ruck contest. It bewilders me how someone in charge of coaching an AFL team cannot think of the problems this would cause. Removing the nomination process would mean players having no idea who can be blocked at the ruck contest. This would lead to potential ruckmen being blocked and either a free kick at every ruck contest, or if no free for obstruction is called, dead ruck contests at every ball-up or throw-in. I heard this as a potential fix so many times i began to question whether i knew the rules of the game anymore! But thankfully Alan Richardson came out and spoke of the exact same problem with this so called 'fix'. Sometimes you expect that those in the game know more about what's going on than us couch experts. But lately it hasn't felt like this at all.

For mine, the rule should just be binned. I never saw an issue with the 3rd man up. But if you are going to recommend fixes, have the foresight to know the exact repercussions of it.

[Topdog]

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For mine, the rule should just be binned. I never saw an issue with the 3rd man up. But if you are going to recommend fixes, have the foresight to know the exact repercussions of it.

come on now that would require actually thinking and not just acting on the spur of the moment.

And to the rest of your post, yes that would be a huge problem. The only "fix" if they must stick with the stupid rule is that they treat every ball up and throw in like the centre bounce where the umpire slows down the game to require that the 2 ruckmen are directly opposed to each other.

[soupman]

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The third man up rule was fine, this fix is flawed, although tbf it does achieve what it sets out to do. Just rather clumsily.

I've never seen the issue with the third man up impacting the ruck contest as such, they aren't dangerous and they can help clear congestion. The only annoying part of having them is when they get bullshit frees.

I would allow third men up again, but if you are doing it then the opposition can block or push you so that you don't impact the contest. The worst part of third man up has always been the pathetic frees they get because their run is impeded. Remove that penalty and it works I think.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

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The third man up rule was fine, this fix is flawed, although tbf it does achieve what it sets out to do. Just rather clumsily.

I've never seen the issue with the third man up impacting the ruck contest as such, they aren't dangerous and they can help clear congestion. The only annoying part of having them is when they get bullshit frees.

I would allow third men up again, but if you are doing it then the opposition can block or push you so that you don't impact the contest. The worst part of third man up has always been the pathetic frees they get because their run is impeded. Remove that penalty and it works I think.

Yes. This is absolutely the way to go.

[comrade]

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The third man up rule was fine, this fix is flawed, although tbf it does achieve what it sets out to do. Just rather clumsily.

I've never seen the issue with the third man up impacting the ruck contest as such, they aren't dangerous and they can help clear congestion. The only annoying part of having them is when they get bullshit frees.

I would allow third men up again, but if you are doing it then the opposition can block or push you so that you don't impact the contest. The worst part of third man up has always been the pathetic frees they get because their run is impeded. Remove that penalty and it works I think.

Agreed. I'd go one step further and stop paying any infringements in the ruck completely. Just let the two big men go at it, and if a 3rd man up also tries to influence the contest, his direct opponent can block/defend.

I ****ing hate ruck free kicks.

[Bornadog]

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Well the AFL met and surprise surprise, there is nothing wrong with the banned 3rd man up or the deliberate OOB rules.