James Hird rushed to hospital

[Twodogs]

Re: James Hird rushed to hospital

Indeed. You have to wonder what sort of POS would leave his 4 kids in Australia, and an alleged 5th in France, without a father because he couldn't cope with his loss of adulation from the Victorian public? He still has money, he still has his kids, he still has employment opportunities through Essendon nuffies, and most of the Kool Aid drinkers still worship him, but apparently that's not enough for James he needs total and utter god like status from all and sundry.

Or this was a pathetic attempt at becoming portrayed as the victim of unjustified bullying.

I'm not sure under which scenario I'd hold more disdain for him.

Number two I reckon. "They'll be sorry when I'm gone"

[Sedat]

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The bloke tried to kill himself and leave his wife and 4 kids without a husband and father. Please stop calling him an attention seeker. What attention is he going to get when he's dead.

I don't think there has been any confirmation of the bolded bit having occurred - certain news broadcasters (and former lawyers) have alluded to this to suit their narrative about an innocent man hounded into this course of action. I am as sympathetic about depression and other awful illnesses as the next person but I am reserving judgement on this particular case - there has simply been too many lies made by Hird and his camp in the last 4 years for this latest turn of events to be taken with a grain of salt. He has destroyed many friendships and lives in his relentless pursuit of placing himself above all and sundry, including his club and the game itself.

The assertion that the AFEL has caused this is brazen in its hypocrisy. I hate the AFEL and their duplicitous ways as much as the next person, but to pin this incident on them is laughable. They did everything they could to bury the story and cushion the blow for Essendon - FFS they are letting a proven doper keep a Brownlow medal despite stripping the award from him. Hubris and arrogance have placed Hird in this situation - I honestly wish him well in his recovery, not the least for his children and immediate family, but I don't care a jot if I never hear about him again in the media. Frankly the last 10 months of not hearing a peep about Hird in the media has been blissful - I much prefer to hear positive footy stories about Bontempelli, Picken, Tom Boyd, Morris, etc.. ruling the airwaves instead of having the last 4 years hijacked by a club that was caught cheating and did all they could to deny, deflect and derail. Unfortunately this incident will now get him front and centre attention in the media - I mean Rohan Connolly got his obviously pre-written puff piece out so quickly, Hird was still on the drip in hospital.

[Sedat]

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So why is he in a mental hospital. Do you seriously think his team would allow these facts to go unquestioned just for people to feel sorry for him, if they weren't true.

Camp Hird has constantly lied and deflected for the last 4 years, so as cynical and as much of an arsehole as it makes me look I think it is plausible that the Hird faction has used this to angle a change to the narrative.

The fact is that he and his family have been left completely alone since Feb last year - everything in the media in last 2 days talks to a man who has been hounded by the media when it is simply not true (or wasn't true until yesterday). He was irrelevant, forgotten, fish and chip paper - why did this incident then even get into the media, how did it happen and who did it? It wasn't a Ben Cousins-esque public incident so either the hospital or the Hird camp has leaked the information. Then noted Hird sympathiser Connolly has a story ready to print barely 5 seconds after the incident and Hird's former lawyers are offering tidbits in the media about bullying and harassment from AFEL House. The timing is convenient to say the least.

Maybe I'm just becoming a crusty old cynic in my older age. If it's any consolation to Hird, I am just as cynical about Garry Lyon's depression after being caught rooting his best mate's wife for several months.

[ledge]

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Camp Hird has constantly lied and deflected for the last 4 years, so as cynical and as much of an arsehole as it makes me look I think it is plausible that the Hird faction has used this to angle a change to the narrative.

The fact is that he and his family have been left completely alone since Feb last year - everything in the media in last 2 days talks to a man who has been hounded by the media when it is simply not true (or wasn't true until yesterday). He was irrelevant, forgotten, fish and chip paper - why did this incident then even get into the media, how did it happen and who did it? It wasn't a Ben Cousins-esque public incident so either the hospital or the Hird camp has leaked the information. Then noted Hird sympathiser Connolly has a story ready to print barely 5 seconds after the incident and Hird's former lawyers are offering tidbits in the media about bullying and harassment from AFEL House. The timing is convenient to say the least.

Maybe I'm just becoming a crusty old cynic in my older age. If it's any consolation to Hird, I am just as cynical about Garry Lyon's depression after being caught rooting his best mate's wife for several months.

I see your reasoning .. Nowadays if people do something stupid or get caught doing illegal stuff they say it's depression or a mental illness. Problem is its used so much it becomes a cry wolf situation.
of people I know that committed suicide they never talked about it , they actually were the happiest people I knew .. Right out of the blue stuff .. Thing with it is you have no idea they had problems.

Is this a sympathy exercise ?
Is it real ?
I have no idea but we all know he has had a lot go wrong in his life lately whether he was to blame or not.
I don't have any time for him but could any of us survive the shit he has gone through ?
My opinion is he is arrogant egotistical and has no feeling for others but himself.
He blames everyone but himself and even now it's the press fault. Which I doubt very much, funny how when your on top
Of the world the press is your best friend and you make a mint out of your name being in articles but the minute you stuff up you blame the media ?
His employment since he was 18 has been in the public eye .he was paid big money for it . Now he doesn't like it ??
Or is it a way of getting his ego back ?
He went into oblivion Maybe he couldn't handle being a has been and his life revolved around footy now it's gone.
Sadly a lot of footballers fall into depression due to them only knowing the football life since 18 . Could be compared to the forces . So many soldiers can't handle civilian life when they get out because it's all
They know.

[Twodogs]

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I don't think there has been any confirmation of the bolded bit having occurred - certain news broadcasters (and former lawyers) have alluded to this to suit their narrative about an innocent man hounded into this course of action. I am as sympathetic about depression and other awful illnesses as the next person but I am reserving judgement on this particular case - there has simply been too many lies made by Hird and his camp in the last 4 years for this latest turn of events to be taken with a grain of salt. He has destroyed many friendships and lives in his relentless pursuit of placing himself above all and sundry, including his club and the game itself.

The assertion that the AFEL has caused this is brazen in its hypocrisy. I hate the AFEL and their duplicitous ways as much as the next person, but to pin this incident on them is laughable. They did everything they could to bury the story and cushion the blow for Essendon - FFS they are letting a proven doper keep a Brownlow medal despite stripping the award from him. Hubris and arrogance have placed Hird in this situation - I honestly wish him well in his recovery, not the least for his children and immediate family, but I don't care a jot if I never hear about him again in the media. Frankly the last 10 months of not hearing a peep about Hird in the media has been blissful - I much prefer to hear positive footy stories about Bontempelli, Picken, Tom Boyd, Morris, etc.. ruling the airwaves instead of having the last 4 years hijacked by a club that was caught cheating and did all they could to deny, deflect and derail. Unfortunately this incident will now get him front and centre attention in the media - I mean Rohan Connolly got his obviously pre-written puff piece out so quickly, Hird was still on the drip in hospital.

Could you imagine what it would have been like if we'd won the flag and the Essendon drug saga was still dragging on? We'd have had a couple of days coverage and then it would have been to the lurid details. As it was I think our pure unalloyed joy at winning the flag was the perfect antidote to all the doom and gloom of the last few years for the media.

Having a footy story that was all about heroes and gleeful supporters and no possible downside was almost cathartic for the footy meeja as an industry and they lapped it up filling the daily papers and TV news with feel good stories even before the Grand Final about Stan and Rose who've been members for 56 years and ACA/TT/Sunrise/HS/The Age came to the party and that went on for weeks after.

[Twodogs]

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I don't think there has been any confirmation of the bolded bit having occurred - certain news broadcasters (and former lawyers) have alluded to this to suit their narrative about an innocent man hounded into this course of action. I am as sympathetic about depression and other awful illnesses as the next person but I am reserving judgement on this particular case - there has simply been too many lies made by Hird and his camp in the last 4 years for this latest turn of events to be taken with a grain of salt. He has destroyed many friendships and lives in his relentless pursuit of placing himself above all and sundry, including his club and the game itself.

The assertion that the AFEL has caused this is brazen in its hypocrisy. I hate the AFEL and their duplicitous ways as much as the next person, but to pin this incident on them is laughable. They did everything they could to bury the story and cushion the blow for Essendon - FFS they are letting a proven doper keep a Brownlow medal despite stripping the award from him. Hubris and arrogance have placed Hird in this situation - I honestly wish him well in his recovery, not the least for his children and immediate family, but I don't care a jot if I never hear about him again in the media. Frankly the last 10 months of not hearing a peep about Hird in the media has been blissful - I much prefer to hear positive footy stories about Bontempelli, Picken, Tom Boyd, Morris, etc.. ruling the airwaves instead of having the last 4 years hijacked by a club that was caught cheating and did all they could to deny, deflect and derail. Unfortunately this incident will now get him front and centre attention in the media - I mean Rohan Connolly got his obviously pre-written puff piece out so quickly, Hird was still on the drip in hospital.

Could you imagine what it would have been like if we'd won the flag and the Essendon drug saga was still dragging on? We'd have had a couple of days coverage and then it would have been to the lurid details. As it was I think our pure unalloyed joy at winning the flag was the perfect antidote to all the doom and gloom of the last few years for the media.

Having a footy story that was all about heroes and gleeful supporters and no possible downside was almost cathartic for the footy meeja as an industry and they lapped it up filling the daily papers and TV news with feel good stories even before the Grand Final about Stan and Rose who've been members for 56 years but couldn't get tickets but ACA/TT/Sunrise/HS/The Age came to the party for them and that story went on for weeks after.

[jeemak]

Re: James Hird rushed to hospital

I'll never get tired of the ol' TD double up.

[GVGjr]

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I'm a little uneasy with the speculation that led to Hirds hospitalisation.
An overdose, intentional or otherwise, is still a very serious outcome and is certainly a reflection of impaired judgement.
I've never been a fan of Hird even before the drugs scandal but I still just think about the impacts of this current issue is having on his family particularly his children and I'm just hoping he is getting the support that he needs

He been punished for his actions with the supplements program and even for all his faults I wouldn't wish this on him or anyone else. He's still a brother, son, husband, father and friend to many and I just hope he gets the assistance he needs.

[LostDoggy]

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James Hird's credibility stocks are so low they make the theory that this is some kind of stunt seem plausible. However, the reports I've read say close friends have been worried about him for some time but he rejected offers of assistance. That could be taken any way. It's just an awful mess that keeps coming back to haunt the EFC.
Whenever someone gets around to writing the book I have the title: "Where did it all go wrong?"

James, The boy who cried Wolf.

[ledge]

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If a book ever comes out called "James Hird the truth" you can guarantee it won't be an autobiography.

[bulldogtragic]

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If a book ever comes out called "James Hird the truth" you can guarantee it won't be an autobiography.

And be classified as fantasy fiction.

[1eyedog]

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More like mythology. He's a god remember.

[FrediKanoute]

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Camp Hird has constantly lied and deflected for the last 4 years, so as cynical and as much of an arsehole as it makes me look I think it is plausible that the Hird faction has used this to angle a change to the narrative.

The fact is that he and his family have been left completely alone since Feb last year - everything in the media in last 2 days talks to a man who has been hounded by the media when it is simply not true (or wasn't true until yesterday). He was irrelevant, forgotten, fish and chip paper - why did this incident then even get into the media, how did it happen and who did it? It wasn't a Ben Cousins-esque public incident so either the hospital or the Hird camp has leaked the information. Then noted Hird sympathiser Connolly has a story ready to print barely 5 seconds after the incident and Hird's former lawyers are offering tidbits in the media about bullying and harassment from AFEL House. The timing is convenient to say the least.

Maybe I'm just becoming a crusty old cynic in my older age. If it's any consolation to Hird, I am just as cynical about Garry Lyon's depression after being caught rooting his best mate's wife for several months.

I think you're spot on. Undeniably what Hird went through was tough. That though doesn't excuse at all how he reacted to it or this apparent attempt to take his own life. It does though follow a pattern of selfish narcissistic behaviour. I come from a camp where almost nothing can justify suicide - having watched people suffer through illnesses and battle to make the most of every day, throwing it all away is misguided and selfish.

[Dry Rot]

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I think you're spot on. Undeniably what Hird went through was tough. That though doesn't excuse at all how he reacted to it or this apparent attempt to take his own life. It does though follow a pattern of selfish narcissistic behaviour. I come from a camp where almost nothing can justify suicide - having watched people suffer through illnesses and battle to make the most of every day, throwing it all away is misguided and selfish.

Agreed - I have very little sympathy for Hird.

I invite you all to spend a few minutes reading about this poor bastard's life and it puts Hird's privileged troubles into perspective.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/sydneys-shoeshine-brian-rudd-dead--second-time-around-20170108-gtnt0f.html

[Bornadog]

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I think you're spot on. Undeniably what Hird went through was tough. That though doesn't excuse at all how he reacted to it or this apparent attempt to take his own life. It does though follow a pattern of selfish narcissistic behaviour. I come from a camp where almost nothing can justify suicide - having watched people suffer through illnesses and battle to make the most of every day, throwing it all away is misguided and selfish.

You are assuming depression and mental health issues don't have anything to do with suicide.