Best 25 players of the past 50 years

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  • Twodogs
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 27645

    #31
    Re: Best 25 players of the past 50 years

    [QUOTE=Webby;544901]When you think that there have been between 12 & 18 teams in the VFL/AFL at all times over the past 50 years and 14+ for the majority of it, the law of averages says that we'd be lucky to have more than one to two players on the list. Grant and Doug are stiff, but it's not outrageous that they'd miss out. KT and definitely Quinlan have a strong case.

    Melbourne fans (with absolutely every right) would be complaining about Robbie Flower missing
    Richmond would have fans howling about Francis Bourke missing.
    Hawthorn fans would be howling about Hodge, Tuck and even Platten missing.
    Norf fans about Greig and Dench... And probably even Boomer..
    Crows fans about McLeod & Ricciuto.
    Dockers fans about Pavlich
    Fitzroy fans about Bernie Quinlan and perhaps Garry Wilson
    Brisbane fans about Simon Black
    Eagles fans about Peter Matera
    Aints fans about Riewoldt and Harvey
    Blues fans about Kouta and probably Sticks
    Bombers fans about just about everything
    Pies fans about Millane, Daicos, Thompson, Swan and Buckley
    Swans fans about Goodes and Kelly
    Port fans about Wanganeen (along with support from the Bombers fans complaining about everything..)
    Geelong fans about Scarlett and probably Dangerfield.


    Point is, with just 25 spots, there's a lot to squeeze in. It'd probably be more fun to do our own![/QUOT


    As a matter of interest I consider Kernahan to be the most overrated player I've ever seen. Massive downhill skier who went to pieces when faced with the slightest pressure. Remember that goal he missed from the goal square to win the game after the siren?
    They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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    • The Doctor
      Coaching Staff
      • Jan 2007
      • 3702

      #32
      Re: Best 25 players of the past 50 years

      Players I would choose ahead of Buckley off the top of my head

      John Platten
      Tim Watson
      Robbie Flower
      Keith Greig
      Gary Dempsey
      Ross Glendenning
      Gary Ayres
      Andrew Mcleod
      John Nicholls
      David Dench
      Luke Hodge
      Chris Grant
      Wayne Johnston
      Wayne Schimmelbusch
      Bernie Quinlan
      Kelvin Templeton
      Darren Jarman
      Jason Akermanis
      Ben Cousins
      Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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      • Twodogs
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 27645

        #33
        Re: Best 25 players of the past 50 years

        Originally posted by The Doctor
        Players I would choose ahead of Buckley off the top of my head

        John Platten
        Tim Watson
        Robbie Flower
        Keith Greig
        Gary Dempsey
        Ross Glendenning
        Gary Ayres
        Andrew Mcleod
        John Nicholls
        David Dench
        Luke Hodge
        Chris Grant
        Wayne Johnston
        Wayne Schimmelbusch
        Bernie Quinlan
        Kelvin Templeton
        Darren Jarman
        Jason Akermanis
        Ben Cousins


        Simon Black
        Brad Johnson
        Scott West
        Jonathan Brown
        Nigel Lappin
        Darryl White
        They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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        • Ozza
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Mar 2008
          • 6391

          #34
          Re: Best 25 players of the past 50 years

          Originally posted by Twodogs


          As a matter of interest I consider Kernahan to be the most overrated player I've ever seen. Massive downhill skier who went to pieces when faced with the slightest pressure. Remember that goal he missed from the goal square to win the game after the siren?
          Can't really agree on this one. He may have missed one after the siren in a home and away game - but Stick's finals and grand finals records is very very good.

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          • Twodogs
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 27645

            #35
            Re: Best 25 players of the past 50 years

            Originally posted by Ozza
            Can't really agree on this one. He may have missed one after the siren in a home and away game - but Stick's finals and grand finals records is very very good.
            You're probably right. I just never liked the bloke for some reason.
            They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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            • Ozza
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Mar 2008
              • 6391

              #36
              Re: Best 25 players of the past 50 years

              Originally posted by Twodogs
              You're probably right. I just never liked the bloke for some reason.
              He played for Carlton in the 80s and 90s....I'd say that was plenty enough reason.

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              • Greystache
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Dec 2009
                • 9775

                #37
                Re: Best 25 players of the past 50 years

                Originally posted by Ozza
                Can't really agree on this one. He may have missed one after the siren in a home and away game - but Stick's finals and grand finals records is very very good.
                He kicked 7 in the losing 1993 Grand Final from memory, and 5 in 1995.
                [COLOR="#FF0000"][B]Western Bulldogs:[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR="#0000CD"][B]We exist to win premierships[/B][/COLOR]

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                • The Doctor
                  Coaching Staff
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 3702

                  #38
                  Re: Best 25 players of the past 50 years

                  Brereton is another i'd pick ahead of Buckley
                  Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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                  • Twodogs
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 27645

                    #39
                    Re: Best 25 players of the past 50 years

                    Originally posted by The Doctor
                    Brereton is another i'd pick ahead of Buckley
                    Dermie was a gun.
                    They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                    • GVGjr
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 44102

                      #40
                      Re: Best 25 players of the past 50 years

                      Do players that have won premierships get rated higher than those who didn't?
                      Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                      • Ozza
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 6391

                        #41
                        Re: Best 25 players of the past 50 years

                        Yes I think so. I don't necessarily think a player should be rated higher due to being part of a team achievement. Although I do think players who have been exceptional in grand finals (like Dermie) deserve some extra adulation.

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                        • Go_Dogs
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 10103

                          #42
                          Re: Best 25 players of the past 50 years

                          Originally posted by Ozza
                          Yes I think so. I don't necessarily think a player should be rated higher due to being part of a team achievement. Although I do think players who have been exceptional in grand finals (like Dermie) deserve some extra adulation.
                          This is it - playing in a strong side allows a player the opportunity to impress on the biggest stages, which is often fairly enough given more weight. Thankfully our players are building/have built that reputation now.

                          I'm not old enough to contribute to this list, but Grant would be the one that's missing for me.
                          Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                          • 1eyedog
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 13170

                            #43
                            Re: Best 25 players of the past 50 years

                            Originally posted by The Doctor
                            Brereton is another i'd pick ahead of Buckley
                            Absolutely.
                            But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                            • jeemak
                              Bulldog Legend
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 21512

                              #44
                              Re: Best 25 players of the past 50 years

                              Originally posted by GVGjr
                              Do players that have won premierships get rated higher than those who didn't?
                              Absolutely.

                              Except ours from last year, it seems.
                              TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                              • LostDoggy
                                WOOF Member
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 8307

                                #45
                                Re: Best 25 players of the past 50 years

                                And yet the man whose name adorns the medal for the best player over the finals series each year- Gary Ayres-can't crack the 25.

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