AFL Rising Star - 2017

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  • Ozza
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Mar 2008
    • 6380

    #61
    Re: AFL Rising Star - 2017

    I'm going to the Rising Star tomorrow - bit of a downer that there are no dogs involved.
    The last time I went was the year Bont ran second.

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    • Axe Man
      Hall of Fame
      • Nov 2008
      • 10860

      #62
      Re: AFL Rising Star - 2017

      Originally posted by KT31
      First season in years we haven't had one let alone two.
      Young and Lipinski should be good chances to pick up nominations next year if they continue to improve.

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 65574

        #63
        Re: AFL Rising Star - 2017

        The media picked McGrath at the start of the year
        FFC: Established 1883

        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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        • Sedat
          Hall of Fame
          • Sep 2007
          • 11043

          #64
          Re: AFL Rising Star - 2017

          Originally posted by bornadog
          The media picked McGrath at the start of the year
          Should be renamed the "best first year half-back without an opponent" award
          "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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          • comrade
            Hall of Fame
            • Jun 2008
            • 17821

            #65
            Re: AFL Rising Star - 2017

            Burton was robbed.
            Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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            • ledge
              Hall of Fame
              • Dec 2007
              • 14027

              #66
              Re: AFL Rising Star - 2017

              Originally posted by comrade
              Burton was robbed.
              So was Bont and you could also lay a claim so was Daniel.. It's supposed to be about who you think will be the next star but it seems they pick them on the year they have in the first year and don't look at the future improvement. Seriously Bontempelli not getting it was an outright horrid decision and everyone could see it !
              Bring back the biff

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              • anfo27
                WOOF Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 1999

                #67
                Re: AFL Rising Star - 2017

                Originally posted by ledge
                So was Bont and you could also lay a claim so was Daniel.. It's supposed to be about who you think will be the next star but it seems they pick them on the year they have in the first year and don't look at the future improvement. Seriously Bontempelli not getting it was an outright horrid decision and everyone could see it !
                The award is about who has had the better year. If it was who is the nest star then Curnow would have won.

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                • Topdog
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 7457

                  #68
                  Re: AFL Rising Star - 2017

                  Yeah it isn't about who will be the next star and never has been

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                  • ledge
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 14027

                    #69
                    Re: AFL Rising Star - 2017

                    Originally posted by anfo27
                    The award is about who has had the better year. If it was who is the nest star then Curnow would have won.
                    But it should be that's why it's called the "rising"star. They are supposed to choose who they think is the best to come not who had a good first year.
                    Bontempelli embarrassed them when the players voted he won by a country mile.
                    Bring back the biff

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                    • EasternWest
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 9892

                      #70
                      Re: AFL Rising Star - 2017

                      Originally posted by ledge
                      But it should be that's why it's called the "rising"star. They are supposed to choose who they think is the best to come not who had a good first year.
                      Bontempelli embarrassed them when the players voted he won by a country mile.
                      What metric do they use to predict" who the best player going forward is"? The vibe?
                      "It's over. It's all over."

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                      • ledge
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 14027

                        #71
                        Re: AFL Rising Star - 2017

                        Originally posted by EasternWest
                        What metric do they use to predict" who the best player going forward is"? The vibe?
                        The same way clubs use to choose players, upside,not always the best player in the final year.
                        The rising star should be called the best first year player the way they choose it.
                        The rising star should be someone they can see the most upside with.
                        Bring back the biff

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                        • EasternWest
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 9892

                          #72
                          Re: AFL Rising Star - 2017

                          Originally posted by ledge
                          The same way clubs use to choose players, upside,not always the best player in the final year.
                          The rising star should be called the best first year player the way they choose it.
                          The rising star should be someone they can see the most upside with.
                          Disagree entirely and think that makes no sense at all.
                          "It's over. It's all over."

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                          • Topdog
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 7457

                            #73
                            Re: AFL Rising Star - 2017

                            Its essentially a "Rookie of the Year" which is always best performed in the year.

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                            • Ozza
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 6380

                              #74
                              Re: AFL Rising Star - 2017

                              Originally posted by Topdog
                              Its essentially a "Rookie of the Year" which is always best performed in the year.
                              Yep. That's what it is.

                              As another poster has said, Curnow probably wins the 'who do you want for 10 years' conversation, but you can't say he had a better season than McGrath.

                              In the Bont year - I still think Bont had more of an impact than Taylor and should have won - but with Taylor playing 22 games and putting up similar numbers, I can at least see how it was possible.

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