AFL Round 10, 2017 Discussion

[Bornadog]

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No free with minutes to go:

[Twodogs]

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From what you do see, Dixon looks like he is about to get up. The 30 seconds would have started straight away as the ball is in his arms.
You then hear and see the umpire whistle, tells the player and signal when there is 5 seconds left.
The other thing the video shows is the Geelong player on the left is far to close.

Geelong did a lot of exclusion encroaching tonight.

[Sedat]

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10 metre rule

That player is Mitch Duncan, who of course was first on the scene to pressure Dixon after the play on call. Nice loophole found by the Cats there - kudos to them for being switched on at the time but it is manifestly unfair for a player 3m away to jump in on Dixon when he should have been 10m away.

[jeemak]

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It's essentially a moot point given Dixon should have been taking a shot from the goal line?

[jeemak]

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If a player is injured, the umpire would signal time on and the 30 second clock would stop until time is signalled back on.

He doesn't need to watch the shot clock.
He is told twice how long to go.

Are you responding to my post Aker39?

What if he's not materially injured but slowed down from impact that was unfair? Assume it would then come down to discreation?

I'm not being a smart arse, just trying to understand.

[LostDoggy]

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Absolutely disgraceful game tonight. I still can't believe the way Port were treated and it wasn't just the last 5 minutes.

Robbie Gray was manhandled all night and time and time again it was just let go. How Scott carries on like that in the box with the pathetically one sided umpiring that Geelong repeatedly receives is down right embarrassing.

Can someone tell me why there wasn't a score review?

Technically correct decision for the play on call at the end? Disgusting in my view and if that's the way the AFL see it then there will be a hell of a lot of fake hammy's getting done.

[soupman]

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I agreed with the Dixon play on call. It's harsh but his fault. He had multiple warnings from both the umpire and big screen, why you would wait for the clock to hit zero beats me.

I didn't think the umpiring was as blatantly bad as in our game, I thought in our match there were atleast 4 decisions in the final quarter that were clearly wrong (Menegola htb, Menzel play on, Murphy htb, Selwood htb, with there being a trip in there as well from Selwood that tbf would have been hard to spot). Last night it was more the 50-50 type frees that didn't go Ports way, although I found the one where Henderson got a free for nothing a bit shit.

Also I thought the Dangerfield goal at the end as worth a review. I know they all get reviewed but nothing much was made of that.

Two other non umpiring things to come out of last night for me though were:
-Selwood is my most hated player. Unfortunately when he retires the narrative is going to be "an uncompromising player admired and respected by the wider footballing public"
-Daisy Pearce was probably the best bit of the coverage. Her contributions were informative, clear and to the point. Huge contrast with Cameron Lings comments that rotate between stating how good the Geelong players are and bumbling explanations or poorly made statements of the most obvious stuff. Also Bruce last night was terrible.

[Mofra]

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I agreed with the Dixon play on call. It's harsh but his fault. He had multiple warnings from both the umpire and big screen, why you would wait for the clock to hit zero beats me.

If players take one step forward when the umpires moves them along, they normally don't call play on. If Dixon took one step he would have been fine

[Topdog]

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These umpires are just cheating now. Hawkins threw it straight up in the air and what do you know play on.

Yes that was a disgrace. He literally threw it straight up in the air.

[Topdog]

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Did the big screen actually show the shot clock? I dont think it did, at least the angle on the video from the previous page wasn't showing it

[westdog54]

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I can't believe the comments about the shot clock.

There is only 1 person to blame and it is not the umpires or the Geelong players.

You see Dixon look at the scoreboard with the shot clock.

The same thing happens every week. As soon as a mark or free kick is paid, the shot clock starts and it doesn't stop unless the umpire signals time on for any reason.
The players get told when there are 15 seconds gone and get a whistle when 5 seconds left.

You clearly see the umpire do this and once it gets to zero he calls play on. The player doesn't get 31 or 32 seconds, he gets 30.

The one rule where it is black and white, not open to interpretation, and people still complain.

There is one big difference between the 6 seconds and the 30 seconds.
There is a big clock on the screen counting down the 30 seconds.
There is no technicality here. 0 in the clock, call play on.
I'd like some examples of where it has gone over 30 seconds.
The smart players start walking in with 3 seconds left ( that is all they have to do, start their approach) the dumb players like Dixon wait for it to get to zero

The best example I can think of is Tory Dickson in the prelim. Marked the ball with 29 seconds to go in the game. He took the first step of his run up when the umpire called "move it on".

Two seconds later the siren sounded.

Are you responding to my post Aker39?

What if he's not materially injured but slowed down from impact that was unfair? Assume it would then come down to discreation?

I'm not being a smart arse, just trying to understand.

Without the experience of being an umpire I assume the following applies:

If the umpire was of the belief that there was "impact that was unfair", they have the option of paying the free kick instead of the mark, and calling time on. If the contact was late or significant, a 50 metre penalty can be paid. Aker39 is welcome to correct me on that.

The play on was the correct call, but the encroachment was missed.

[Topdog]

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Absolutely it did.

Watched it on my phone initially and couldn't see it. Just watched it again on PC screen and I can indeed now see the clock. Cheers

[Topdog]

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Huge goal by Burgoyne. 1 point game with 5 minutes to go

[Sedat]

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Lol Swans and Saints

[bulldogtragic]

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Lol Swans and Saints

Yep. My second team is Hawthorn. I don't want a potential competitor during our dynasty attempt getting a top 5 pick in addition to their first rounder this year (Saints).