Where does your club rank on the key goalkicking stats for the 2017 AFL season?

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  • Ozza
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Mar 2008
    • 6402

    #16
    Re: Where does your club rank on the key goalkicking stats for the 2017 AFL season?

    Originally posted by bornadog
    It happens. He has kicked 14.14 this year - not a good percentage.

    I was talking in general about his kicking around the ground.
    Over his career - I'd love to see Bont's goal kicking for last quarters vs all other quarters.
    If he is lining up for goal early in the game - I only have a medium level of confidence, but if it is last quarter and game on the line - put it in the book.

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    • Bulldog4life
      WOOF Member
      • Oct 2007
      • 9607

      #17
      Re: Where does your club rank on the key goalkicking stats for the 2017 AFL season?

      Ben Brown's run up is sooooo very long but he is an accurate shot for goal.

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      • westdog54
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2007
        • 6686

        #18
        Re: Where does your club rank on the key goalkicking stats for the 2017 AFL season?

        Originally posted by Bulldog4life
        Ben Brown's run up is sooooo very long but he is an accurate shot for goal.
        Ahmed Saad also says hello.

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        • Twodogs
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 27664

          #19
          Re: Where does your club rank on the key goalkicking stats for the 2017 AFL season?

          Originally posted by Bulldog4life
          Ben Brown's run up is sooooo very long but he is an accurate shot for goal.
          Originally posted by westdog54
          Ahmed Saad also says hello.

          Michael Holding is waving from heaven.
          They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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          • jeemak
            Bulldog Legend
            • Oct 2010
            • 22011

            #20
            Re: Where does your club rank on the key goalkicking stats for the 2017 AFL season?

            Originally posted by Bulldog4life
            Ben Brown's run up is sooooo very long but he is an accurate shot for goal.
            Originally posted by westdog54
            Ahmed Saad also says hello.
            Originally posted by Twodogs
            Michael Holding is waving from heaven.
            All very good examples of players who either didn't play the game, managed to get a few games in or seem to be cobbling a decent career together.

            My point is, long run ups give too much time to think and allow for technical issues to creep in. I've long held the belief that a shorter and purposeful run up would get a better result, and honestly, that belief was derived from practice through my late teens and amateur career, coupled with an obsessive attitude towards the topic.

            I look at other football codes and see long range free kicks, try conversions and field conversions which are all short run up concerns, and believe we've got something to learn from them.

            With respect to AFL specifically, I ask, why is everyone under pressure much more likely to hit a field kick to a target than they are to hit a set shot?

            Might it have something to do with the shorter run up?
            TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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            • westdog54
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jan 2007
              • 6686

              #21
              Re: Where does your club rank on the key goalkicking stats for the 2017 AFL season?

              Originally posted by jeemak
              All very good examples of players who either didn't play the game, managed to get a few games in or seem to be cobbling a decent career together.

              My point is, long run ups give too much time to think and allow for technical issues to creep in. I've long held the belief that a shorter and purposeful run up would get a better result, and honestly, that belief was derived from practice through my late teens and amateur career, coupled with an obsessive attitude towards the topic.

              I look at other football codes and see long range free kicks, try conversions and field conversions which are all short run up concerns, and believe we've got something to learn from them.

              With respect to AFL specifically, I ask, why is everyone under pressure much more likely to hit a field kick to a target than they are to hit a set shot?

              Might it have something to do with the shorter run up
              ?
              And nothing to do with the fact that the kick is over a shorter distance and aiming to achieve a different purpose, or that the recipient of a kick has the advantage of movement that goalposts do not have?

              Field kicking is inherently different to goalkicking.

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              • Ozza
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Mar 2008
                • 6402

                #22
                Re: Where does your club rank on the key goalkicking stats for the 2017 AFL season?

                Originally posted by jeemak
                All very good examples of players who either didn't play the game, managed to get a few games in or seem to be cobbling a decent career together.

                My point is, long run ups give too much time to think and allow for technical issues to creep in. I've long held the belief that a shorter and purposeful run up would get a better result, and honestly, that belief was derived from practice through my late teens and amateur career, coupled with an obsessive attitude towards the topic.

                I look at other football codes and see long range free kicks, try conversions and field conversions which are all short run up concerns, and believe we've got something to learn from them.

                With respect to AFL specifically, I ask, why is everyone under pressure much more likely to hit a field kick to a target than they are to hit a set shot?

                Might it have something to do with the shorter run up?
                I don't think that the length of the run up has anything to do with it at all.

                The best kicks at goal from set shots are invariably the players who have a set routine that they don't tinker with, with good efficient ball drops. If you picture Tony Lockett or Matt Lloyd - every set shot was exactly the same reliable routine - and the results followed.

                Chris Grant was a brilliant field kick - but in the first probably 12-13 years of his career, he would tinker with his approach and it just made him worse. Late in his career, he looked far more relaxed with every shot having the identical approach, and he hardly ever missed.

                Josh Dunkley is an awful set shot - and he has a short approach. He takes only a handful of steps, and has a terrible ball drop.

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