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  • ledge
    Hall of Fame
    • Dec 2007
    • 14472

    Drafting rules, what are they ?

    Just trying to get a hold of what rules apply..
    How many does a team have to draft a year, does that include rookies or trades ?
    In the draft how many years must you have them for, does it include players from other teams ?
    Can you delist a player and re draft them and it's counted as a new draft pick?
    I was trying to get hold of these answers but it seems that rules change every year and I can't keep track of which rules are for which year.
    Wasn't the rookie list going to disappear and just become part of the normal list ?
    Bring back the biff
  • hujsh
    Hall of Fame
    • Nov 2007
    • 11887

    #2
    Re: Drafting rules, what are they ?

    Pretty sure you must take 3 in the national draft every year. Whether they've played before is irrelevant.

    The contract draftees get is for two years IIRC but you probably could cut them like with did with Goetz (spelling) if you wanted to.
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    • GVGjr
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 45013

      #3
      Re: Drafting rules, what are they ?

      Originally posted by hujsh
      Pretty sure you must take 3 in the national draft every year. Whether they've played before is irrelevant.

      The contract draftees get is for two years IIRC but you probably could cut them like with did with Goetz (spelling) if you wanted to.
      I think it's 3 changes to the primary list which (I think) can include a rookie list upgrade.
      From the rookie list it's a 1 year commitment for players drafted from their home state and a 2 year commitment if you bring them in from interstate.

      I'll hunt something down a bit later.
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      • hujsh
        Hall of Fame
        • Nov 2007
        • 11887

        #4
        Re: Drafting rules, what are they ?

        Originally posted by GVGjr
        I think it's 3 changes to the primary list which (I think) can include a rookie list upgrade.
        From the rookie list it's a 1 year commitment for players drafted from their home state and a 2 year commitment if you bring them in from interstate.

        I'll hunt something down a bit later.
        Right but it happens at the national draft with a draft pick (for whatever reason)
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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 45013

          #5
          Re: Drafting rules, what are they ?

          Originally posted by hujsh
          Right but it happens at the national draft with a draft pick (for whatever reason)
          Agreed.
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          • westdog54
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jan 2007
            • 6686

            #6
            Re: Drafting rules, what are they ?

            This from the AFL website/app:

            No room at Dogs for out-of-contract duo - http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-10-2...ofcontract-duo

            "Clubs are required to bring at least three players onto its lists by selecting them at the draft or upgrading someone from the rookie list."



            For us, it means utilising pick 9 and 16 on draftees, and I believe we have already committed to upgrading Roarke Smith.

            As it stands at the moment, there is no room on the list for Honeychurch or Crameri.

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            • boydogs
              WOOF Member
              • Apr 2009
              • 5845

              #7
              Re: Drafting rules, what are they ?

              Originally posted by ledge
              How many does a team have to draft a year, does that include rookies or trades ?
              3. It doesn't include trades, or newly drafted rookies. It does include rookies upgraded to the senior list, which requires the use of a draft pick. It is likely that we will upgrade Roarke Smith with 82 as we only have 9, 16 and 82 to use

              Originally posted by ledge
              In the draft how many years must you have them for, does it include players from other teams ?
              National Draftees all have a 2 year contract and set rates based on their selected position. This contract continues if the player changes clubs after the first year e.g. Tom Boyd

              Originally posted by ledge
              Can you delist a player and re draft them and it's counted as a new draft pick?
              Yes, but they are available as a Delisted Free Agent before they are available in the draft, so you have to be confident another club won't snap them up for free, or draft them earlier than you if the players available at their earlier picks aren't what they hoped for. Crameri could get to us at 82 but would be in this situation

              Originally posted by ledge
              Wasn't the rookie list going to disappear and just become part of the normal list ?
              In the AFLPA Collective Bargaining Agreement for 2018-2022 agreed to in June 2017, the rookie lists were retained, however Category A rookies will be available for senior selection without having to be upgraded first
              If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

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              • boydogs
                WOOF Member
                • Apr 2009
                • 5845

                #8
                Re: Drafting rules, what are they ?

                Originally posted by hujsh
                The contract draftees get is for two years IIRC but you probably could cut them like with did with Goetz (spelling) if you wanted to.
                Goetz was a rookie, think he was on a 1 year deal and we paid him out for him to go early
                If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

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                • hujsh
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 11887

                  #9
                  Re: Drafting rules, what are they ?

                  Originally posted by boydogs
                  Goetz was a rookie, think he was on a 1 year deal and we paid him out for him to go early
                  I know that but would it not be possible if they were on a two year contract? My assumption is if you can do it for him you could do it for regular draftees if you paid them out (like what happens with coaches)
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                  • boydogs
                    WOOF Member
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 5845

                    #10
                    Re: Drafting rules, what are they ?

                    Originally posted by hujsh
                    I know that but would it not be possible if they were on a two year contract? My assumption is if you can do it for him you could do it for regular draftees if you paid them out (like what happens with coaches)
                    Yeah of course
                    If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

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                    • ledge
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 14472

                      #11
                      Re: Drafting rules, what are they ?

                      Looks like we lose both Crameri and honeychurch .. Question is.. is Rourke Smith better than either of them ?
                      Bring back the biff

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                      • ledge
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 14472

                        #12
                        Re: Drafting rules, what are they ?

                        Could it be we don't up grade Rourke but keep him on the Footscray list ?
                        It's still looking after him and if he goes ok take him next year , yes I know it's a risk other teams might grab him but it's probably a safer way to look at it given his knees .
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                        • Hotdog60
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 5962

                          #13
                          Re: Drafting rules, what are they ?

                          Originally posted by boydogs
                          3. It doesn't include trades, or newly drafted rookies. It does include rookies upgraded to the senior list, which requires the use of a draft pick. It is likely that we will upgrade Roarke Smith with 82 as we only have 9, 16 and 82 to use
                          What about pick 101. How come it's listed if we can't use it.
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                          • hujsh
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 11887

                            #14
                            Re: Drafting rules, what are they ?

                            Originally posted by Hotdog60
                            What about pick 101. How come it's listed if we can't use it.
                            Technically we have picks as far back as we want if we chose to use them. To use pick 101 we need to delist 3 more players instead of 2.
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                            • bulldogtragic
                              The List Manager
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 34289

                              #15
                              Re: Drafting rules, what are they ?

                              Originally posted by ledge
                              Looks like we lose both Crameri and honeychurch .. Question is.. is Rourke Smith better than either of them ?
                              They may be. But they're on the primary list, Smith is on the rookie list and we need those two spots. So you can't judge them against each other on a spot on the primary list. So I take you're question, is should we use pick 82 on a rookie elevation or if Honey &/or Crameri were not taken as DFAs and made it all the way to 82 should we re-draft them?

                              I think they both get picked up as DFAs so the question will be Roarke as a kid with 82.
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