New record by the Blues? How did they stuff up so badly?

[Happy Days]

Re: New record by the Blues? How did they stuff up so badly?

He's an inside mid so they debut him on the HBF and he has a shocker.

At one point a year or so ago they played the same number of first round draft picks in their side as GWS.
They are horrible at player development.
e.g. O'Brien was a lineball selection just ahead of Ed Richards for them. Compare the pair? There is no comparison.

I'll stick my neck out now - within 3 years Bailey Smith will be a better player than Sam Walsh. Anyone is free to bump this.

O'Brien and Dow are already looking like lost causes, which is quite frankly an amazing turnaround on some elite draft capital. At least they're punctual I guess.

On the other hand, Walsh is already a superstar and I don't know if I'd feel confident saying anyone will be better than him in three years.

[Twodogs]

Re: New record by the Blues? How did they stuff up so badly?

O'Brien and Dow are already looking like lost causes, which is quite frankly an amazing turnaround on some elite draft capital. At least they're punctual I guess.

On the other hand, Walsh is already a superstar and I don't know if I'd feel confident saying anyone will be better than him in three years.

I've seen Walsh do some standard things pretty well but I haven't seen him shimmy through a pack, take the ball with clean hands then accelerate away and deliver it as smoothly as I saw Smith did on Saturday night. I'm with Mofra. Smith is a gun.

[comrade]

Re: New record by the Blues? How did they stuff up so badly?

I've seen Walsh do some standard things pretty well but I haven't seen him shimmy through a pack, take the ball with clean hands then accelerate away and deliver it as smoothly as I saw Smith did on Saturday night. I'm with Mofra. Smith is a gun.

Please tell me I’m not crazy when I say that Smith plays just like Brad Johnson at the same age. Same acceleration, same slight hunch.

[Ghost Dog]

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It was Malthouse using Carlton to take his frustration out on Collingwood that was really weird.

Yeah I used to work with a lot of die-hard Carlton fans. It was a miserable time for them and they use to joke " We know he still wears Collingwood underwear". Carlton fans are just the most miserable of them all. Worse than Melbourne, because Dees fans are still a bit self-depreciating and can poke fun at themselves. Blues fans still think they deserve to be a big club.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: New record by the Blues? How did they stuff up so badly?

The most relevant club according to John Elliott are currently trading pick 1 for pick 16. I understand they rated Liam Stocker, but no one would trade pick 19 in one year for giving up pick 1 and a 15 pick downgrade.

[Go_Dogs]

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The most relevant club according to John Elliott are currently trading pick 1 for pick 16. I understand they rated Liam Stocker, but no one would trade pick 19 in one year for giving up pick 1 and a 15 pick downgrade.

But imagine if they had ANOTHER pick 1 and continued to get pumped every week in 2020? That would've been even worse.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: New record by the Blues? How did they stuff up so badly?

But imagine if they had ANOTHER pick 1 and continued to get pumped every week in 2020? That would've been even worse.

For who? If they're getting pumped each week, and maybe even lose to us, I don't mind what pick they have. Carlton losing is like 'The White Album'. It just never gets old.

[Remi Moses]

Re: New record by the Blues? How did they stuff up so badly?

Incredibly stupid decision
Silvagni gets kudos for being a great list manager !
Great player , but not a great list manager .

[ledge]

Re: New record by the Blues? How did they stuff up so badly?

Incredibly stupid decision
Silvagni gets kudos for being a great list manager !
Great player , but not a great list manager .

Like Dodoro at Essendon, no finals win since 2000 and the media write how they win the draft every year.
All Silvagni has done is pick up players that he recruited at GWS or anyone named Silvagni.

[josie]

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Please tell me I’m not crazy when I say that Smith plays just like Brad Johnson at the same age. Same acceleration, same slight hunch.

I must be crazy too/two!! My nickname for him is BBJ - blond brad Johnson. He even has similar big grin. Let’s hope his career is as stellar as brad’s.

[Mofra]

Re: New record by the Blues? How did they stuff up so badly?

Please tell me I’m not crazy when I say that Smith plays just like Brad Johnson at the same age. Same acceleration, same slight hunch.

They look similar, it would be interesting to see compare their km's covered in a game because Johnno was a champion junior middle distance runner and Smith had an interrupted pre-season.

I think Smith will be more "explosive" but Johnno was superior overhead, an underrated mark on the lead.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: New record by the Blues? How did they stuff up so badly?

Public Service Announcement: If in the presence of Carlton people, be kind and remind them they’re currently trading pick 1 for pick 15.

[Ghost Dog]

Re: New record by the Blues? How did they stuff up so badly?

If they beat us, this thread might not seem so funny....

[Nuggety Back Pocket]

Re: New record by the Blues? How did they stuff up so badly?

Yeah I used to work with a lot of die-hard Carlton fans. It was a miserable time for them and they use to joke " We know he still wears Collingwood underwear". Carlton fans are just the most miserable of them all. Worse than Melbourne, because Dees fans are still a bit self-depreciating and can poke fun at themselves. Blues fans still think they deserve to be a big club.

Pagan and Malthouse wasn’t the problem at Carlton but more to do with the toxic culture they inherited from the Elliott/ Collins culture days reducing Carlton from once a powerhouse in the AFL to an also ran. Whether the current Board is capable of turning its fortunes around is still Questionable.

[Twodogs]

Re: New record by the Blues? How did they stuff up so badly?

Pagan and Malthouse wasn’t the problem at Carlton but more to do with the toxic culture they inherited from the Elliott/ Collins culture days reducing Carlton from once a powerhouse in the AFL to an also ran. Whether the current Board is capable of turning its fortunes around is still Questionable.

Yep agreed. I read a lot of salty Carlton supporters saying that the punishment they copped for salary cap cheating in 1999 were too much and set the club back too far. Well, yeah, that was part of the idea. They benefited from cheating and playing cute with the rules and spirit of the competition so they get no sympathy from me.