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  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 45007

    Scott Clayton

    There is a fair bit of speculation that Scott Clayton is on his way out as List Manager of the Suns replaced by Craig Cameron. Clayton has apparently been linked to the Saints.

    He has a reputation of being very good with managing player contracts and I think there is enough evidence to suggest he's struggled attracting the right players to clubs in the recruiting component of his job.

    I think his biggest weakness with us was his inability to project the playing list requirements when we were leading into a couple of years of father son selections and compromised drafts with the new teams coming on board.

    This is a problem that followed him at the Suns where he was given a plethora of early picks over the years and once again he struggled to bring the right players into the fledgling club.

    I wonder if he is seen as a direct replacement for Bains for the Saints?
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  • Go_Dogs
    Hall of Fame
    • Jan 2007
    • 10209

    #2
    Re: Scott Clayton

    Read the article this morning.

    Have a feeling he may end up at the AFL in some capacity, although perhaps the Saints have appeal. Looks like he will struggle to get another role as a recruiter but has enough experience to step into an administration role.
    Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 67291

      #3
      Re: Scott Clayton

      Originally posted by Go_Dogs
      Read the article this morning.

      Have a feeling he may end up at the AFL in some capacity, although perhaps the Saints have appeal. Looks like he will struggle to get another role as a recruiter but has enough experience to step into an administration role.
      He hasn't been recruiting for a number of years now, he has been the list manager at GC.
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      • Cyberdoggie
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 2861

        #4
        Re: Scott Clayton

        I think if you can't find the right picks with what GC had then it's clear he won't get another job in recruiting talent.

        There was also the inability to find a decent tall while he was at the dogs.

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        • bulldogtragic
          The List Manager
          • Jan 2007
          • 34289

          #5
          Re: Scott Clayton

          Every person in the industry has an expiry date. I think he's reached his expiry date.
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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 67291

            #6
            Re: Scott Clayton

            Originally posted by Cyberdoggie
            I think if you can't find the right picks with what GC had then it's clear he won't get another job in recruiting talent.

            There was also the inability to find a decent tall while he was at the dogs.
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            • Greystache
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Dec 2009
              • 9775

              #7
              Re: Scott Clayton

              Originally posted by bornadog
              Minson, Brian Lake, Roughead
              One star tall in 10 years with a mountain of early picks. A truly horrendous performance that easily have been matched by anyone who follows the draft predictor online.

              He's done remarkably well to last as long as he did in the AFL industry. It's not only his absolute ineptitude in picking talls, his obsession with skinny outside runners, and ambivalence to competitiveness and character were also bizarre.
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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 67291

                #8
                Re: Scott Clayton

                Originally posted by Greystache
                One star tall in 10 years with a mountain of early picks. A truly horrendous performance that easily have been matched by anyone who follows the draft predictor online.

                He's done remarkably well to last as long as he did in the AFL industry. It's not only his absolute ineptitude in picking talls, his obsession with skinny outside runners, and ambivalence to competitiveness and character were also bizarre.
                Yep heard it all before
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                • Greystache
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 9775

                  #9
                  Re: Scott Clayton

                  Originally posted by bornadog
                  Yep heard it all before
                  So why point out 2 plodders and one star as some sort proof that people are wrong?
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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 67291

                    #10
                    Re: Scott Clayton

                    Originally posted by Greystache
                    So why point out 2 plodders and one star as some sort proof that people are wrong?

                    Your opinion.

                    I was responding to: There was also the inability to find a decent tall while he was at the dogs.
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                    • Greystache
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 9775

                      #11
                      Re: Scott Clayton

                      Originally posted by bornadog
                      Your opinion.

                      I was responding to: There was also the inability to find a decent tall while he was at the dogs.
                      I see, you were laboring a technically while we were clearly talking generalities. There's 5 minutes wasted I'll never get back.
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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 67291

                        #12
                        Re: Scott Clayton

                        Originally posted by Greystache
                        I see, you were laboring a technically while we were clearly talking generalities. There's 5 minutes wasted I'll never get back.
                        me too
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                        • The Bulldogs Bite
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 11331

                          #13
                          Re: Scott Clayton

                          Amazing that this bloke has had a job for so long.

                          Surely he has to be the worst recruiter of all time?
                          W00F!

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                          • Twodogs
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 27664

                            #14
                            Re: Scott Clayton

                            Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
                            Amazing that this bloke has had a job for so long.

                            Surely he has to be the worst recruiter of all time?
                            But for those 3 Brisbane premierships nobody would have heard of him. And that list was essentially 2 lists distilled into 1 with a bunch of early picks and list concessions stirred in and combined.
                            They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                            • Jeanette54
                              Senior Player
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 1298

                              #15
                              Re: Scott Clayton

                              Originally posted by Go_Dogs
                              Read the article this morning.

                              Have a feeling he may end up at the AFL in some capacity, although perhaps the Saints have appeal. Looks like he will struggle to get another role as a recruiter but has enough experience to step into an administration role.
                              So what you are saying is, "Them that can't do, administrate".
                              The truth will set you free,
                              but first it will piss you off. ... Gloria Steinem.

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