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  • Go_Dogs
    Hall of Fame
    • Jan 2007
    • 10168

    Re: MRO Thread

    The AFL should appeal that decision and get it back to 6 weeks. Pathetic.
    Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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    • Dry Rot
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2007
      • 6448

      Re: MRO Thread

      So if you are the Giants coach, their captain or a team mate, what do you say to Greene?
      The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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      • EasternWest
        Hall of Fame
        • Aug 2009
        • 10002

        Re: MRO Thread

        Originally posted by Dry Rot
        So if you are the Giants coach, their captain or a team mate, what do you say to Greene?
        "It's over. It's all over."

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        • jeemak
          Bulldog Legend
          • Oct 2010
          • 21844

          Re: MRO Thread

          Originally posted by Dry Rot
          So if you are the Giants coach, their captain or a team mate, what do you say to Greene?
          If you win this week it's a chance at redemption and things are mostly forgiven. If you lose you tell him you got lucky in the 2018 prelim, but you let us down this year.

          Then you tell him that if again you recklessly throw away a chance to play a final next week you're being traded to the highest bidder no matter the outcome.

          And of course, you follow through with it.

          You can't have someone who continually puts their needs and impulses over the needs of the team. You have to draw a line.
          TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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          • westdog54
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jan 2007
            • 6686

            Re: MRO Thread

            Originally posted by jeemak
            If you win this week it's a chance at redemption and things are mostly forgiven. If you lose you tell him you got lucky in the 2018 prelim, but you let us down this year.

            Then you tell him that if again you recklessly throw away a chance to play a final next week you're being traded to the highest bidder no matter the outcome.

            And of course, you follow through with it.

            You can't have someone who continually puts their needs and impulses over the needs of the team. You have to draw a line.
            Either:

            This conversation was had in 2018 and it didn't sink in, in which case it probably won't sink in this time either, or;

            It didn't happen then, in which case it probably won't happen this time either.

            If Leon Cameron is in any way serious about curbing Greene's behaviour, he gets stripped of the captaincy. Bare minimum. He's left it's team hanging twice in four years in finals series through an act of stupidity. That's not leadership.

            Problem is, I don't think Cameron has the guts to do it. He's defended him too vehemently in the past to indicate that he's capable of reining him in. He's a big part of the problem.

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            • SquirrelGrip
              Senior Player
              • Oct 2007
              • 1528

              Re: MRO Thread

              Originally posted by westdog54
              Either:

              This conversation was had in 2018 and it didn't sink in, in which case it probably won't sink in this time either, or;

              It didn't happen then, in which case it probably won't happen this time either.

              If Leon Cameron is in any way serious about curbing Greene's behaviour, he gets stripped of the captaincy. Bare minimum. He's left it's team hanging twice in four years in finals series through an act of stupidity. That's not leadership.

              Problem is, I don't think Cameron has the guts to do it. He's defended him too vehemently in the past to indicate that he's capable of reining him in. He's a big part of the problem.
              The difficulty is that GWS are at the best when Greene is captain.
              "I'll give him a hug before the first bounce and then I'll run into my pack and give them orders to rip him apart."

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              • jazzadogs
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Oct 2008
                • 5667

                Re: MRO Thread

                Originally posted by SquirrelGrip
                The difficulty is that GWS are at the best when Greene is captain.
                I'd imagine that Josh Kelly will be captain next year, given Coniglio is an objectively poor leader (if you haven't watched the Amazon doco you might disagree) and Greene is not an appropriate choice. Kelly has also signed for life so would seem a safe choice.

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                • bulldogtragic
                  The List Manager
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 34289

                  Re: MRO Thread

                  AFEL Appealing. Hearing set for after the finals for logistical reasons.
                  Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                  • SquirrelGrip
                    Senior Player
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 1528

                    Re: MRO Thread

                    Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                    AFEL Appealing. Hearing set for after the finals for logistical reasons.
                    Is that so Eddie can get a permit to be there?
                    "I'll give him a hug before the first bounce and then I'll run into my pack and give them orders to rip him apart."

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                    • westdog54
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 6686

                      Re: MRO Thread

                      Originally posted by jazzadogs
                      I'd imagine that Josh Kelly will be captain next year, given Coniglio is an objectively poor leader (if you haven't watched the Amazon doco you might disagree) and Greene is not an appropriate choice. Kelly has also signed for life so would seem a safe choice.
                      Not having an Amazon subscription (he's got enough *!*!*!*!ing money) what did I miss?

                      Their lack of leadership is staggering.

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                      • jazzadogs
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 5667

                        Re: MRO Thread

                        Originally posted by westdog54
                        Not having an Amazon subscription (he's got enough *!*!*!*!ing money) what did I miss?

                        Their lack of leadership is staggering.
                        He's just so vanilla. GWS are one of the main stories, with a focus on Coniglio, and his addresses to the playing group are some of the most monotonous boring uninspiring things I've heard. He seems like a really nice guy and someone you'd want to be mates with, but not a leader.

                        I also get the feeling he knows it's not a strength and is trying to work on it, but it doesn't come naturally and was probably taking focus away from his footy. He might have had Griff as a mentor.

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                        • westdog54
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 6686

                          Re: MRO Thread

                          Originally posted by jazzadogs
                          He's just so vanilla. GWS are one of the main stories, with a focus on Coniglio, and his addresses to the playing group are some of the most monotonous boring uninspiring things I've heard. He seems like a really nice guy and someone you'd want to be mates with, but not a leader.

                          I also get the feeling he knows it's not a strength and is trying to work on it, but it doesn't come naturally and was probably taking focus away from his footy. He might have had Griff as a mentor.
                          It's the trap of having your best player as a captain.

                          Leadership is a skill in itself and has zero to do with the skill actually involved in your job.

                          Nick Maxwell is the perfect example. He was a good ordinary player but an outstanding leader and captain.

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                          • Ghost Dog
                            WOOF Member
                            • May 2010
                            • 9404

                            Re: MRO Thread

                            Originally posted by westdog54
                            It's the trap of having your best player as a captain.

                            Leadership is a skill in itself and has zero to do with the skill actually involved in your job.

                            Nick Maxwell is the perfect example. He was a good ordinary player but an outstanding leader and captain.
                            Tom Harley is another example.
                            You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                            • westdog54
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 6686

                              Re: MRO Thread

                              Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                              Tom Harley is another example.
                              A very good one at that.

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                              • boydogs
                                WOOF Member
                                • Apr 2009
                                • 5844

                                Re: MRO Thread

                                Throw Mitch Wallis in there as a leader beyond his football skills

                                The Gardner one reminds me of Lake v Riewoldt 2009, barely a free kick, not close to reportable
                                If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

                                Formerly gogriff

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