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  • Rocket Science
    Coaching Staff
    • Oct 2007
    • 4866

    #16
    Re: Rules Changes for 2019

    Serious question: why have a goal square any more?
    BORDERLINE FLYING

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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 67308

      #17
      Re: Rules Changes for 2019

      Originally posted by Rocket Science
      Serious question: why have a goal square any more?
      It is a joke. I can see some huge issues with this.
      FFC: Established 1883

      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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      • The Adelaide Connection
        Coaching Staff
        • Jan 2009
        • 2805

        #18
        Re: Rules Changes for 2019

        Originally posted by Rocket Science
        Serious question: why have a goal square any more?
        I guess the only function it now serves is for putting someone straight in front when they mark in the square versus in Row Z when they mark 1cm out of the square.

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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 45026

          #19
          Re: Rules Changes for 2019

          Originally posted by Rocket Science
          Serious question: why have a goal square any more?
          To help the umpires work out where to line up the free kicks from
          Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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          • soupman
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Nov 2007
            • 5131

            #20
            Re: Rules Changes for 2019

            Originally posted by Rocket Science
            Serious question: why have a goal square any more?
            I imagine because it determines when it's play on. I assume that as soon as the player kicking out leaves the square the umpire will call play on, but not before. Otherwise you are pushing the man on the mark back 5 metres at the start only to delay his sprint at the player kicking out.
            I should leave it alone but you're not right

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            • Topdog
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jan 2007
              • 7471

              #21
              Re: Rules Changes for 2019

              So no more ball ups when your foot is on the line?

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              • GVGjr
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 45026

                #22
                Re: Rules Changes for 2019

                There one or two decent changes but the rest are overreactions
                Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                • Hotdog60
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 5963

                  #23
                  Re: Rules Changes for 2019

                  Will the hands in the back be equal for defenders?
                  Can the fullback hold his ground and mark the ball or will it be bias towards the forward.
                  Don't piss off old people
                  The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 67308

                    #24
                    Re: Rules Changes for 2019

                    Good discussion here on effects of rule changes
                    Last edited by Bornadog; 31-05-2019, 09:23 PM.
                    FFC: Established 1883

                    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                    • boydogs
                      WOOF Member
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 5845

                      #25
                      Re: Rules Changes for 2019

                      Originally posted by bornadog
                      Good discussion here on effects of rule changes
                      Link no good
                      If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

                      Formerly gogriff

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                      • Rocket Science
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 4866

                        #26
                        Re: Rules Changes for 2019

                        So now we're getting a 'Wildcard Round' too.



                        Rad.

                        Just rename the product AFELX and be done with it.
                        BORDERLINE FLYING

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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 67308

                          #27
                          Re: Rules Changes for 2019

                          Originally posted by boydogs
                          Link no good
                          Try this : https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode?id=378182
                          FFC: Established 1883

                          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                          • jeemak
                            Bulldog Legend
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 22011

                            #28
                            Re: Rules Changes for 2019

                            Thanks for sharing that BAD. I think the data and discussion backs a lot of what many of us think.

                            What resonated with me was the acknowledgement that coaches are inherently defencive - which is what a lot of us already know - and that they'll stop scoring first. This is my issue with the interchange cap, and the intent to reduce it further and fatigue players more. If you fatigue players they just won't run forward, the default position or first priority will be defend, the secondary priority will be to get it going the other way.

                            The 666 as it sits is a soft introduction to permanent zoning of the field, which is something I think needs to be considered if we are hell bent on intervening with rule changes (and you can make an argument whether we should be either way but it's not really one I want to worry about given the AFL IS hell bent on rule changes so we're stuck with them), and outside of that you need to find a way to incentivise high scoring (I think Leigh Matthews has been reading all the positive opinions about him on WOOF recently, as he's now adopted this idea which is something I've been banging on about for a while).

                            You can say that an incentive to score more benefits teams at Docklands under the roof, but there's multiple tenants resulting in a lower home ground advantage, while the ground is smaller and more easily congested than other grounds. Other teams enjoy larger grounds and a home ground advantage, so I reckon it would probably balance out but you wouldn't know without trying it.

                            People say a reduction in on-field numbers would possibly help things, but I'm not entirely convinced it will on the smaller grounds in the competition, while teams will congest the defencive area with the same numbers they do anyway but will have less options when transitioning forward.

                            Well worth a listen and I think demonstrates why dedicated extended segments drilling down into issues have a lot of value compared to the three or four minutes football media usually spends on each topic in normal programming.
                            TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 67308

                              #29
                              Re: Rules Changes for 2019

                              Originally posted by jeemak
                              Well worth a listen and I think demonstrates why dedicated extended segments drilling down into issues have a lot of value compared to the three or four minutes football media usually spends on each topic in normal programming.
                              I enjoyed the discussion and backs up what I have said all along. No rule changes will ever make the game look like what you want it to look like. We have a bunch of old farts who want to replicate footy from the 80s, but you know what you just cant do it.

                              We have to leave the game develop on it's own, as it continues to evolve with new strategy, with human beings becoming faster, taller, stronger.

                              The AFL just don't get it.
                              FFC: Established 1883

                              Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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